Selling a phone without getting scammed

[v_tec]

Originally Posted by TOS'd

Sold an iPhone 4 on cl before, met buyer at mcdonalds, tested their simcard, didnt ask for imei, paid in $20s.

bcrdukes was outside in the escape tricycle if shit hit the fan, told him 5 mins, if im not back you know what to do.

Fixed it for you.

[TOS'd]

Originally Posted by v_tec

Fixed it for you.

He can't ride though. I'm positive it was a corolla with an automatic transmission, since he can't operate manual either.

[nma]

Selling a USB stick over CL. Requiring social insurance number, tax receipts for the last 5 years, and a copy of passport.

[bcrdukes]

Bitch, what's your blood type and mother's maiden name?!

[BrRsn]

Originally Posted by TOS'd

Sold an iPhone 4 on cl before, met buyer at mcdonalds, tested their simcard, didnt ask for imei, paid in $20s.

bcrdukes was outside in the escape vehicle if shit hit the fan, told him 5 mins, if im not back you know what to do.

what was he gonna do?

avoid confrontation and post it on social media hoping the facebook police save you?

Also ... I'm not sure getting a double while standing on the rear pegs of his bike counts as an escape vehicle

[terkan]

all i gotta say is if you are worried about this shit.. then might as well save yourself the hassle and don't deal with CL or strangers

[Drow]

when i sell electronics on CL i usually post it as $20 above the going price

in my ad i always guarantee No Bullshit No Hassle

and it works

[Expresso]

This thread sucks.

[bcrdukes]

STFU dhillon09

[TOS'd]

STFU bcrdukes

[Expresso]

STFU TOS'd

[tomatogunk]

Battery life still never ceases to amaze me

[v_tec]

^ wrong thread?

[underscore]

That contract/receipt is more likely to fuck you over than to help you since any private deal has zero warranty/return policy, at the end of the day any private deal does have some risk but if it's gonna bankrupt you if something goes sideways then you shouldn't be buying it in the first place.

And if someones gonna be stupid and hassle you no contract will prevent that, if you buy/sell enough stuff you'll eventually deal with idiots who didn't pay attention to what they were buying or had buyers remorse or some shit, either ignore them or tell them to sod off and move on.

[tiger_handheld]

Originally Posted by underscore

That contract/receipt is more likely to fuck you over than to help you since any private deal has zero warranty/return policy, at the end of the day any private deal does have some risk but if it's gonna bankrupt you if something goes sideways then you shouldn't be buying it in the first place.

And if someones gonna be stupid and hassle you no contract will prevent that, if you buy/sell enough stuff you'll eventually deal with idiots who didn't pay attention to what they were buying or had buyers remorse or some shit, either ignore them or tell them to sod off and move on.

How will it fuck me over? The receipt does state "final sale" and the buyer signed off on the features and condition at the time of sale..

[underscore]

Because with no receipt you already have zero liability once the cash changes hands, so it's not possible for the receipt to "improve" things in any way. Since that's true it's only possible for it to make things worse, so if somebody finds a technicality or loophole in your receipt they now have more of a leg to stand on than if you had done nothing.

And at the end of the day, anybody dumb enough to try and sue you or whatever over the value of a phone is stupid enough to do so whether they have a contract or not.

[mr_chin]

As a seller, you can't be scammed other than counterfeit money. So my advice is don't bother with contract/receipt. Like underscore said, you're putting yourself at unnecessary risk. By doing nothing other than handing over the product and taking his cash, you already have the upper hand.

Caveat emptor basically. A lot of buyer I come across just wants to get the exchange done and leave. If there is a ding or scratch here and there, I'm not going to point them out specifically. I'm more than happy to sit there and answer any questions, so if they find any defect later or is not happy about a damage they discover after the transaction... too bad.

When I buy, I examine it thoroughly, even if it means sitting there for 30 min checking the OS and all the functions. If anything I don't like after the transaction, that's my fault.

It's a private sale, you're not running a business where you have to guarantee the customer's satisfaction. You're not obligated to a 30 day money back guarantee. There is no 15 day refund/exchange.

With that said though, I give you props for coming up with a contract and ease of mind for your customer.

[terkan]

lol this contract you wrote is so fail.. requesting for BCID/DRIVER LICENSE? there's so much stuff can be done with just ur BCID or DL number that i'm surprised the other guy is retarded enough to give it to you. if i'm at a place where i have no choice but to give it to you.. then so be it.. but here giving a random stranger your personal info? =\

[Acura604]

Ive been looking at used phones lately off CL and everyone has some lame version of 'mint'.

" it's 9.5/10 and mint but has a nick in the corner". No that's not mint.

[Acura604]

always good to bring this back to the top... again, you will NEVER be safe off a CL purchase unless you know the person.

I just got a mint phone off CL and followed these steps:

- I judged the person selling the phone to me... yes, this matters.

- checked IMEI towards the so-called national database: Check the Status of Your Device in Canada | Protect Your Data. Protect Yourself.

- inserted my rogers and telus sim to test unlock

- checked to see if phone connects to LTE network

- dialed my other phone with device

- if box is included, match the phone IMEI to the box IMEI

- tested speaker via youtube video

- removed back cover and checked for water damage (note 4 removable cover)

- checked warranty status on Samsung site and Rogers site

- checked with cellular carrier to verify phone has been purchased outright and not on a contract

- checked to make sure Samsung activation lock was OFF

*I would also suggest:

- take a copy of sellers ID / drivers license (although you'll get A lot of resistance)
- ask for original receipt if available


Let's also take a look at the 'insurance scams'. Bell for example charges you an extra $10 a month to enroll your phone into their 'insurance' plan. If you report a lost/stolen phone, you still have to pay the 'replacement fee' depending on which phone you're getting replaced. i.e. a Samsung note 4 is $249 plus tax.

anyways, there's never a real way to get complete confidence that you will be OK ... just gotta hope and think there are honest sellers out there.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Buy form RS check the sellers info, how long they been on RS, How many posts they make, their raitings etc etc...... So far all the phones I sold are on RS. I even check the buyers info and if I feel I might get scam I don't sell to them. Rather sell it a lower price to someone I have confident in.

[H.Specter]

Originally Posted by Acura604

- take a copy of sellers ID / drivers license (although you'll get A lot of resistance)

No way in hell any reasonable person with half a brain would allow their ID to be photocopied to a stranger. I'd have a better chance of sleeping with Beyonce than that.