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originalhypa 10-16-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kingmarianor (Post 8543916)
I was around people telling me things like swapping a 2jz in a 240z is sacrilegious. :heckno:

The minute this fucker put a 2JZ into a 67' Camaro, all semblance of sacriledge or respect went out the window.


Imho, do what fits your needs. If you want a high revving high power engine, then either will fit the bill. But remember what kind of supplementary drivetrain and suspension parts you'll need. You're going to be spending a ton of money on all the other bits so the mAdD PoWaz doesn't twist your ancient chassis putting you into the closest ditch the first time you stomp it.

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Originally Posted by multicartual (Post 8543911)
convert it to turbo and run MegaSquirt on it

I want to convert you into my turb-ho and megasquirt on your face.

:hotbaby:


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Originally Posted by multicartual (Post 8543919)
What I've learned with engine swaps is that the little things are what are costly, leaky headers, getting the accessory fittings just right, positioning of the radiator, fans, the wiring.

agreed.
I've spent a few weekends trying to figure out the best way to reroute the throttle cable in what should have been an easy swap. It truly is the little things that you don't think about that set you back.


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Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 8544234)
be unique, rotary engine that ish.

I'm down with this suggestion.

Here's a 20b in a 240z for some inspiration.
http://www.viczcar.com/sites/default.../20b-240z5.jpg

kingmarianor 10-16-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SkunkWorks (Post 8544094)
I had a stroked 3.1L L28 with triple Mikunis and I'd still prefer it over any of your choices.

Seeing your other threads, it seems like you don't even have a car yet, let alone driven the L28.

My first car was a Acura RSX, (which I've sold through this forum recently), but I've seen several Datsuns come and go through my relatives already. My family has a long history working with Z cars and left a couple for me to take over.

Finally decided to sell my RSX and take up a 280z project like my dad wanted (y)

kingmarianor 10-16-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The_AK (Post 8544084)
Have you driven any cars with these engines? I'd say take each for a drive and see which of the engines you like more then go from there

Driven an R32 and loved it. Never driven a supra, nor am I blessed enough to be close to anyone that has one I can drive LOL

kingmarianor 10-16-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 8544234)
LOLz'd @ Sack Religious.

be unique, rotary engine that ish.

:notbad:

kingmarianor 10-16-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by originalhypa (Post 8544328)
The minute this fucker put a 2JZ into a 67' Camaro, all semblance of sacriledge or respect went out the window.

Culture Shock Camaro SS 2JZ 1,000HP DYNO + Quick Drive Fastest 6 Cylinder 1967-1969 Camaro!! - YouTube

This is fucking sexy...

originalhypa 10-17-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kingmarianor (Post 8544419)
This is fucking sexy...

I'll admit, I tripped balls when I saw it for the first time. The work the guy put into it really garners a lot of respect. Although the rednecks really don't get it.

The truth is, you're not going to keep everyone happy all the time. While you love an RB or 2JZ, another guy thinks a built NA motor is best. I prefer the thought of a KA or SR swap. The LSx folks make a great argument for their aluminum mill. And there's always one of those rotary queers in every crowd talking about apex seals and high revs..... :lol

The bottom line is, just do it.
:)

underscore 10-17-2014 11:48 AM

First off, what do you want from the car, big power, or just a bit of an upgrade? If you're adding power you're gonna wanna upgrade the brakes and suspension as well, then you have to think about the strength of the chassis and weight balance.

As far as the swap itself, to me it's only "sacrilegious" if the motor you're replacing is already a high performance capable motor (ie replacing an RB26 with a 2JZ) since you're adding a bunch of extra work and headache for little to no gain.

multicartual 10-17-2014 12:41 PM

Start with something simple, maybe even start with an N/A 2JZ, get everything running right FIRST.

Then add a standalone... learn to tune your N/A motor and learn to drive the car, balance the chassis.

Then, after maybe a year of that, THEN step up your game and perhaps add a power adder.

Shit in my E36 chassis even under stock 5.0 power I'm finding that it overpowered the stock rear diff. Also, the 3.91 gears and 225 rear tires are basically a burnout machine in 1st gear. I need to run drag radials on the rear to get any sort of 1st gear traction*... on a stock 184 rwhp engine!

Engine swaps are a huge project!



*Did research last night, I need some ksport drag coilovers... $1,2xx USD!


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