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10-28-2024, 08:29 AM
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I had snow tires in the 9 yr DOT range and the rubber got really hard. So yah, about 7 yr life is a good principle +/- a yr or 2 at most.
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10-28-2024, 09:03 AM
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I guess before the idea of 7 years became popular in the last 10 years we were all just driving around on ice skates then, who knows how many died.
That said I wasn't really talking about snow tires, wrong thread I guess that's my bad
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10-28-2024, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by roastpuff  A 2015 production tire will be less flexible, less grippy and less durable overall than say, a 2022 production tire, thanks to the rubber hardening and aging, and it is a noticeable difference. | All else being equal, sure. But loads of people are rolling around on such janky crap that the tire compound being in sub-optimal condition due to age is the least of their concerns. A 2015 winter that actually has tread will do a lot better than the bald all seasons they currently have on. Every time I've sold a set of crappy tires that I price and advertise as rollers/the value is in the rims someone shows up on something way shittier and says they're going to be using them.
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10-28-2024, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Badhobz Especially snow tire .. I mean show tire… I mean snow tire people |  you should work in PR or marketing or something. They are squandering your talents at the port.
Good 'ol smear campaigning, slowly but surely undermining the winter tire movement. Casting seeds of confusion and doubt.
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10-28-2024, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by underscore All else being equal, sure. But loads of people are rolling around on such janky crap that the tire compound being in sub-optimal condition due to age is the least of their concerns. A 2015 winter that actually has tread will do a lot better than the bald all seasons they currently have on. Every time I've sold a set of crappy tires that I price and advertise as rollers/the value is in the rims someone shows up on something way shittier and says they're going to be using them. | I'm not casting any shade on you - I was just arguing with 68style regarding his opinion that "tire age doesn't matter".
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10-28-2024, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r I had snow tires in the 9 yr DOT range and the rubber got really hard. So yah, about 7 yr life is a good principle +/- a yr or 2 at most. | I had a similar experience with my winters - I bought a used set off someone and by year 8 and 9 it had lost a lot of grip. Traction was still ok but it sure felt greasy and rock hard by the time it reached that stage. It creeps up on you but when you get the new ones on it's almost shocking how much more grip you get back even on dry/wet surfaces.
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10-28-2024, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by roastpuff I think that a winter tire is more likely to require 10/10ths performance than performance tires for a regular person, actually - especially for braking and cornering. Joe Schmoe is more likely to hit the traction limit of that winter tire braking down a steep icy hill vs Randy Racer with his PS4S on a nice summer day. That extra bit could be the difference between a controlled stop, or hitting another car.
A 2015 production tire will be less flexible, less grippy and less durable overall than say, a 2022 production tire, thanks to the rubber hardening and aging, and it is a noticeable difference. | TBH I did not notice significant degradation in the tire when I ran them last year but figured since I live in a hilly area and my driveway is steep AF, probably better off to not cheap out on risking them another year and getting a new set.
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10-28-2024, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by roastpuff I'm not casting any shade on you - I was just arguing with 68style regarding his opinion that "tire age doesn't matter". | I didn't say it doesn't matter, but it's not like they turn into pumpkins at 7 years on the dot... people act like they're suddenly no good... if an average tire is stored in garage in the PNW you should be able to get 10 years out of it no problem.
I happen to know of at least 1 manufacturer that tells its sales reps here that they hve no issue with honouring full warranty even on tires that have sat 2-3 years prior to sale.
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10-28-2024, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 68style I didn't say it doesn't matter, but it's not like they turn into pumpkins at 7 years on the dot... people act like they're suddenly no good... if an average tire is stored in garage in the PNW you should be able to get 10 years out of it no problem.
I happen to know of at least 1 manufacturer that tells its sales reps here that they hve no issue with honouring full warranty even on tires that have sat 2-3 years prior to sale. | Yes, because those 2-3 years that it sat before sale was generally indoors in a warehouse.
I hesitate to give any sort of time frame that tires "are good for" because you see weird shit happen - a lot of the newer Michelin tires have sidewall cracking already after a couple of years, etc. No matter stored indoors or on the car.
Always inspect the tires that you plan to buy.
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter Damn, not only is yours veiny AF, yours is thick AF too. Yours is twice as thick as mine.. That looks like a 2" or maybe even 3"? | | |
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10-28-2024, 06:09 PM
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Yeah definitely. When I had bought my FJ Cruiser at ~4 years old, the rubber on all 5 original tires were cracked all over. Despite still having lots of tread.
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10-28-2024, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 68style I happen to know of at least 1 manufacturer that tells its sales reps here that they hve no issue with honouring full warranty even on tires that have sat 2-3 years prior to sale. | So yah, buyers are quite upset that when they buy a set of tires, the DOT is like 2 yrs old. So imagine buying a set of snow tires this season stamped with manufacture date Jan or Feb of 2022. If you want to resell them later, buyer only cares what is DOT ... not when you bought them. Old DOT affects resell value as well.
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11-02-2024, 11:46 PM
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im a little late to the game so things are pretty slim pickings for the x5
i guess i either compromise and go with some all seasons or find something smaller on fbm
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Originally Posted by red kryptonite im a little late to the game so things are pretty slim pickings for the x5
i guess i either compromise and go with some all seasons or find something smaller on fbm | If new is in the budget, reach out to OverDrive in Richmond. They might have winter tire + wheel packages available.
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thanks! ill hit them up on monday
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if u say that bicbaws (or a guy on RS since there's only a few of us here that are active on RS and whatsapp chats) recommended you, they might treat you better... or treat you worse. I'd like to think better since I'm pretty involved when I send clients to them as I don't like to make a bad recommendation.
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