That's a lot of power.

Stock RX-8s typically have 170~180 WHP and 130 ft-lb WTQ, so they should last long.

That's what I got on the cheap. Not even close to snow season to know how they'll hold up, but as a wet weather tire they do the job. Even in the dry they're fairly competent. Supposedly of the China brands West Lake is one of the better ones.

so is it okay to buy the cheap no name brand snow tires (triangle, westlake, etc) as they are still superior to all season tires in the snow/slush? or just splurge and get some proper snowtires like X-Ice michelins

if anyone is with a radio right now cknw980 is going to talk about winter tires after the 11am news break.

I used no names before. It really depends on your budget. I'm using Michelin X-Ice now and I find it better for road noise and handling. If you're strapped for cash or putting on low mileage I'm sure they're fine.

Craigslist, and keep your eye out for bargains. I'd buy better tires off Craigslist than Chinese no-names.

i kinda wanna drive Coquihalla this winter with this 4motion golf wagon. feel like going to banff or something for ha ha's but dont wanna die :badpokerface:

If you can afford to take the trip you can afford the proper tires to take it safely.

also...in my wife's tiguan the 4motion is pretty shit.

im sure its the same in my golf. these halidex systems arent all that great i hear.

i got stuck in oceanshores wa on the beach when i got it lodged in the middle of the car and the wheels just kept digging holes in the soft sand. stupid low clearance

I mean, your Golf Sportwagen 1.8T 4Motion can run the standard VW Golf/GTI sizing of 205/55R16 in 16" - those tires are pretty damn cheap brand new already.


https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/nvn/...330615478.html
Here's a used set of Pirelli snow tires including steel wheels. Give the guy an offer and start low. $450

https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/nvn/...329239163.html

Set of Continental WinterContact SI tires and steel wheels, near new. $695.

https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/...328638062.html

Set of Nitto winter tires mounted on VW alloys if you don't like ugly steel wheels. $600

https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/pml/...300434355.html

Here's a set of Michelin XI3's on steel wheels for $600.

There's so many used sets out there for reasonable prices that can be bargained down. Start making calls on Craigslist before the winter rush comes in. Get ahead of the game.

We bought our nearly new Blizzaks on steel rims for the Mazda3 for like $450 on CL last year. The real question is when do I put them on... temps getting low at night already!

-Mark

APA Winter Tire Reviews 2017-2018

A good survey of most of the winter tires available in Canada. Note that they do also review the Chinese imports.

I believe summers and all seasons start to lose grip below 7*C, personally I swap to winters as soon as I'm going to be doing any driving in single-digit (below 10*C) weather.

Do ask and/or check the DOT on used set of tires. If you are narrowing it down to 1 or 2 sets on CL, pick the set that are made most recently (almost goes without saying). So many people don't pay attention to this small detail.

The problem is, that it may be 6 or 7 degrees in the morning, but warms up to over 10 degrees in the daytime. No winter tire is great in warm and wet conditions, something that Vancouver gets a lot of during October. Last thing you want to do is hydroplane during a typical Vancouver rainstorm.

I usually mount my winters in early to mid November, when temperatures start getting closer to 5 degrees.

The 7°C thing came from Continental Tires and Nokian Tires years ago with a comparison of their summer tires and winter tires at various temperatures on wet and dry pavement for Auto Express magazine. They never compared all season tires and I've yet to see a study that actually shows that winter tires perform better than all seasons at above freezing temperatures in all conditions. But this has been repeated ad nauseum, most notably by Canadian Tire. The same comparison also showed the summer tire was substantially better in terms of braking and handling as temperatures rise above 7°C (plus wear and fuel consumption also increased substantially on the winters).

In fact, some sources generally rate good all seasons better in rain and slush (obviously winters substantially better in snow and ice), citing better designs for siping away water.

Conti actually doesn't recommend the use of all seasons. I came across the link yesterday, on the Subaru page. They recommend the use of winters or summers as it's a no compromise solution for that weather period.

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That's a very small temperature swing from the morning to mid day, here we've been getting as low as 0*C at night and as high as 14*C during the day. If the temperature is never going below 5*C I think you're fine.

Right, but the warm side of things isn't where you're going to crash. A summer tire at freezing temperatures is going to be more compromised than a winter tire at 8*C, so if you can be seeing both of those in the same day I'd be driving on winters. Reduced wear and fuel economy in the warm afternoon hardly matter if you crash on some ice in the early morning. All seasons might give you more of a buffer either way but seeing as this is a car forum I would assume lots of people have proper performance tires for the summer and not all seasons.

thats just simple physics, nothing to do with the AWD system. if ur car is high centered, no AWD system will get u out if u cannot put the power down

Ready for winter...

Rdx gets gloss black OEM wheels with blizzaks

Civic gets rsx wheels with BF Goodrich slaloms.

https://i.imgur.com/PLjzxyZ.jpg

Yah but did you get your shovel and salt yet?

Got 2 FULL 10kg bags and a 5kg bag left over from last year...I'm ready.


but in actuality, we moved to a cul de sac and the house has one of those community mailboxes (so the mailman won't have to come to our door). we don't even have a sidewalk to deal with and I pretty much exit the home via the garage. Won't be a big deal anymore.

I think you guys are all over thinking it. Do you have a set of dedicated summer and winter wheels? Just rotate them with the highway laws. You’ll wear out one set no matter what, this way it’s split evenly and you’ll never be “oops too late now all the shops appointments are booked for 2 weeks but I need them on this weekend”

I was making a joke a while ago with my friend. I said I should use summer in the morning and winter at night. He said that it could be a good workout, but it's just way too time-consuming.

Most winter tires still have great hydroplane resistance. They have designs that push the water to the side.

The last bit is what gets me. Winter tires are definitely not terrible in rain, but if it snows around here, winter tires are definitely better.