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thumper 10-12-2017 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Acura604 (Post 8866164)
Got 2 FULL 10kg bags and a 5kg bag left over from last year...I'm ready.


but in actuality, we moved to a cul de sac and the house has one of those community mailboxes (so the mailman won't have to come to our door). we don't even have a sidewalk to deal with and I pretty much exit the home via the garage. Won't be a big deal anymore.

but don't the snowplows always dump the snow at the end of the cul de sac?

Acura604 10-12-2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thumper (Post 8866213)
but don't the snowplows always dump the snow at the end of the cul de sac?

I'm looking forward to it.... put the RDX to the test.

Zedbra 10-12-2017 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thumper (Post 8866213)
but don't the snowplows always dump the snow at the end of the cul de sac?

yup - we had a 14' pile of snow out front of my place last year - my kids loved it. It took months to melt, we had bets on the date.

Berzerker 10-12-2017 01:43 PM

I have NITTO Motivo tires on my Element. They have a M&S rating. We will see how they do. I have some dedicated snow tires as well on some offset Cragar Soft8 rims that stick out and get my vehicle all covered with mud and snow so I'm going to run the Motivo's for awhile and see how they do. I do live up a big hill so it will be a good test for the winter capabilities.

Berz out.

underscore 10-12-2017 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thumper (Post 8866213)
but don't the snowplows always dump the snow at the end of the cul de sac?

Here they pile it in the middle, if the cul de sac is large enough.

Suprarz666 10-12-2017 09:16 PM

Has anyone tried the Kumoho HA31 all weathers ?

Just wondering before I buy them, can't find too many reviews online.

TOPEC 10-12-2017 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Acura604 (Post 8866227)
I'm looking forward to it.... put the RDX to the test.

just to give u a heads up, went up to SFU with a frnd in his RDX last year, 2 donuts in and the rear diff temp warning light came on :lawl:

yray 10-12-2017 11:30 PM

anyone have experience with touren, konig or those off brand rims from chinar @ 1010 tire, kal tire or pretty much everyone in the lower mainland?

AstulzerRZD 10-13-2017 04:26 AM

Picking up some Nordman WR (rebranded Nokian WRG2) to run for the duration of my parents' FWD RAV4 lease - 65k km warranty.

Was super impressed by their behavior in both dry weather and snow in Ontario - have heard they're great in the slush as well but can't confirm myself.

AzNightmare 10-13-2017 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquid_o2 (Post 8866035)
The problem is, that it may be 6 or 7 degrees in the morning, but warms up to over 10 degrees in the daytime. No winter tire is great in warm and wet conditions, something that Vancouver gets a lot of during October. Last thing you want to do is hydroplane during a typical Vancouver rainstorm.

I usually mount my winters in early to mid November, when temperatures start getting closer to 5 degrees.

lol, I don't park in a garage so my summer tires get cold and hard in the morning. With yesterday's rain, my car felt like it was slipping just turning out of the alley. Took a few mins to get the tires warmed up.

AzNightmare 10-13-2017 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 8866360)
Picking up some Nordman WR (rebranded Nokian WRG2) to run for the duration of my parents' FWD RAV4 lease - 65k km warranty.

Was super impressed by their behavior in both dry weather and snow in Ontario - have heard they're great in the slush as well but can't confirm myself.

https://www.kaltire.com/en/all-weather-tires/

Apparently they're classified as "All-Weather" tires?

They seem to be at a good price and their Kal Test Results are pretty good. They should be good enough for Vancouver winters?
https://www.kaltire.com/en/tires/nor...010442003.html
:considered:

While people are recommending Blizzaks and X-ICE, a part of me wonders if I really need top end snow tires when my commute is always within the city.


edit: lol, forgot to change wheel size... they're not as cheap as I thought anymore :okay:

Acura604 10-13-2017 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 8866366)
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While people are recommending Blizzaks and X-ICE, a part of me wonders if I really need top end snow tires when my commute is always within the city.

last years 'commute in the city 'was chaos... oak/knight/cambie/granville all had sheets of ice... so many morons slipping away... true winter tires are not just for snow but the softer compound allows better control of your vehicle should you start slipping. I got rear ended by some baztard running a rav4 awd on all seasons along granville - got out to exchange info and his tread was like 50%. .. BE prepared with the best equipment you can afford.

FlyinOrange 10-13-2017 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Acura604 (Post 8866379)
BE prepared with the best equipment you can afford.

Taking all-seasonals out in that mess last year frankly bordered on willful negligence.

Driving into work before sunrise Wednesday, the rears spun on a few occasions - happy to have previously booked the switch over appt for the day after. Now sporting a set of Nok Hakka R2s (SUV).

Dear winter, bring it.

JordanLee 10-13-2017 09:10 PM

Looking to get a set from Costco/Kaltire this year for the gfs CX3 but having a hard time choosing between the X-Ice 3s and the Nokian Hakas. A lot of RFDers are saying the Hakas are a much better choice for Vancouvers winters but Im just wondering if the price premium for Kaltire for those are worth it?

threezero 10-13-2017 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Acura604 (Post 8866164)
Got 2 FULL 10kg bags and a 5kg bag left over from last year...I'm ready.


but in actuality, we moved to a cul de sac and the house has one of those community mailboxes (so the mailman won't have to come to our door). we don't even have a sidewalk to deal with and I pretty much exit the home via the garage. Won't be a big deal anymore.


live in a cul de sac too. Last winder was the first snow winter in the cul de sac. I had to shovel a path from my place out to the street.

The city never plows the snow inside the cul de sac. After a fews snowstorm and neighbour 's car making tracks all over the place. It got so dirty and disgusting.

Than again my car has low clearance, you may have a easier time.

I would of salted the whole cul de sac if i had enough salt for it last year

thumper 10-15-2017 08:08 AM

i was at home depot in burnaby yesterday and they were all sold out of alaskan ice melt (unless they put out an empty display as a sales gimmick?) :o

my friend said that the rona in vancouver still had salt, but it wasn't the cheap stuff (not sure what brand it was).

someone sort of asked this a few posts earlier... what kind of winter tire should we be choosing based on the last couple of snowfalls? ie. something with deep treads for unplowed snow, or heavily siped for pack ice? it just seems like it's either or and it's hard to find a tire that can do both optimally.

320icar 10-15-2017 09:37 AM

Deep pack snow = trouble starting to move
Packed ice = trouble stopping

I’d much rather be able to stop better then get going.

Lomac 10-15-2017 02:05 PM

If you live somewhere that sees fresh snow fall on a regular basis, a deep pack snow tire would be your best bet. The Lower Mainland, however, you're likely better off going for something that leans towards packed snow, slush, and icy roads.

As 320i said, I'd rather have trouble starting than stopping.

Kilinim 10-15-2017 04:15 PM

I have to say, the quality of steel wheels from Costco.ca is absuolute garbage. Ordered 4 and 3/4 are bent. Talking with a guy working at one of the costco tire centres and he said he sees this problem every winter with costco steelies. Had an appointment to get my winters mounted tomorrow but now I'll have to wait :/

PSA: don't buy steelies from Costco.ca

Lomac 10-15-2017 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kilinim (Post 8866730)
I have to say, the quality of steel wheels from Costco.ca is absuolute garbage. Ordered 4 and 3/4 are bent. Talking with a guy working at one of the costco tire centres and he said he sees this problem every winter with costco steelies. Had an appointment to get my winters mounted tomorrow but now I'll have to wait :/

PSA: don't buy steelies from Costco.ca

They used to have a good supplier for their steelies but no longer. The rims they get are cheap crap that, as you've noticed, bend very easily. Canadian Tire also has the same problem. Best bet is to find OEM steelies or to go to a proper tire shop (Kal Tire, B&B, 1010, etc) and ask for their higher quality ones. At least those will be hub centric and should withstand more than a light touch without bending.

nsx042003 10-15-2017 05:15 PM

or use oem wheels, gives you an excuse to go aftermarket for the summer sets

x-ice are pretty cheap at costco this year so i grabbed a set for the lowered LS

supafamous 10-15-2017 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 8866366)
While people are recommending Blizzaks and X-ICE, a part of me wonders if I really need top end snow tires when my commute is always within the city.

I think the gap between stuff like a General Altimax Arctic and a Blizzak/X-Ice really comes down to people who are enthusiasts. The average person does fine in a set of Altimax Arctics - they lose a bit more steering feel, get a bit more noise and get a slightly lesser amount of bite on the most difficult of winter conditions (packed ice) but otherwise they will get you out of the same stuff as the top line stuff.

If the choice is getting nothing or getting a cheap set of winters I'd always go for the latter.

320icar 10-15-2017 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilinim (Post 8866730)
I have to say, the quality of steel wheels from Costco.ca is absuolute garbage. Ordered 4 and 3/4 are bent. Talking with a guy working at one of the costco tire centres and he said he sees this problem every winter with costco steelies. Had an appointment to get my winters mounted tomorrow but now I'll have to wait :/

PSA: don't buy steelies from Costco.ca

Can confirm. We had the issue a few years ago when we sold them in store. Tones of complaints and returns, so we switched to online only and also manufacturer. Haven’t seen many new steels come in this year so can’t say right now.

I’ve seen this though with just about every generic steelie. Strongly recommend just buying oem take-offs from the base model of your car. Don’t just buy them from the dealership, they usually supply generic winter Steelers too

AstulzerRZD 10-15-2017 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 8866366)
https://www.kaltire.com/en/all-weather-tires/

Apparently they're classified as "All-Weather" tires?

They seem to be at a good price and their Kal Test Results are pretty good. They should be good enough for Vancouver winters?
https://www.kaltire.com/en/tires/nor...010442003.html
:considered:

While people are recommending Blizzaks and X-ICE, a part of me wonders if I really need top end snow tires when my commute is always within the city.


edit: lol, forgot to change wheel size... they're not as cheap as I thought anymore :okay:

Correct! They are all weather so you can run them all year round, even in the summer. Think of them as super winter capable all seasons.

I think they're a good fit for someone who lives in a not as hilly area of Metro Vancouver, doesn't want the hassle of a second set of rim & tire, but still wants confidence in slushy & snowy winter daily driving and an occasional run to Whistler/Cypress.

The APA seems to think that the newer WRG3 (the WR = WRG2) is comparable to high end winter tires: https://www.apa.ca/wintertire_reviews.asp
As you've noticed, they can get quite pricey.

Badhobz 10-15-2017 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8866762)
Can confirm. We had the issue a few years ago when we sold them in store. Tones of complaints and returns, so we switched to online only and also manufacturer. Haven’t seen many new steels come in this year so can’t say right now.

I’ve seen this though with just about every generic steelie. Strongly recommend just buying oem take-offs from the base model of your car. Don’t just buy them from the dealership, they usually supply generic winter Steelers too

you work for costco? tire department? WHY WONT YOU GUYS ANSWER MY DAMN CALLS!!!! nobody seems to respond to those emails for appointments.


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