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Hondaracer 11-13-2015 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lilaznviper (Post 8697713)
i got 5x100 16" for sale if thats the bolt pattern you need

What's the easiest way to find the proper bolt pattern for a car?

Car I need ateelies for is a 2009 Hyundai Elantra

SumAznGuy 11-13-2015 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8698553)
What's the easiest way to find the proper bolt pattern for a car?

Car I need ateelies for is a 2009 Hyundai Elantra

5x114.3 with a 45-55 offset and a 67.1 center bore.

I have a set of 15x6 steelies for sale that may work :alone:

dared3vil0 11-13-2015 08:48 AM

The vast majority of steelies have oversized hub bores to fit a bunch of cars so don't expect to find one with the correct bore, just get hub centric rings.

SumAznGuy 11-13-2015 08:58 AM

I wouldn't worry too much about hubcentric rings. Never used any and never had any vibration issues as long as the wheels were properly installed.

SumAznGuy 11-13-2015 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8698553)
What's the easiest way to find the proper bolt pattern for a car?

Car I need ateelies for is a 2009 Hyundai Elantra

15 inch 5x114.3 steel rim

Pretty fair price for steelies. Not mine.

320icar 11-13-2015 09:49 AM

If you're switching from alloys to steel, make sure your lug nuts/wheel bolts have the correct seat for the steel wheels (round, conical, flat)

Hondaracer 11-17-2015 09:04 AM

So ended up picking up those steelies above, now the GF's friend is selling her set of good year Nordics (Canadian tire specials?) to us for $80 they were only used for 4 months and basically have 75% tread
Remaining

At that price might as well just go with those? Are are they shitty enough to justify spending more on somthing new ?

SumAznGuy 11-17-2015 10:11 AM

New snow tires are going to run in the $400-600 range.
Best is to get a tire tread depth gauge and measure how much tread is left.

Also, make sure the tires are the right size for the car. The Elantra and a lot of newer cars run a 195/65/15 tire now adays while older cars use to run a smaller diamater 195/55/15 tire.

604CEFIRO 11-18-2015 12:21 PM

All Honda dealerships advertise lowest price guarantee on tires, and lots of manufacturer mail in rebates going on right now so good deals to be had.

Regardless of your Make/Model, you can try pricing out a set here (this is openroad hondas site): Honda

Harvey Specter 11-18-2015 12:34 PM

I had Pirelli sottozero's installed on the R8 a few days ago and I must say I'm impressed with the tires. They handled pretty good in 1c weather, lets how they perform when the temps drop below 0.

godwin 11-19-2015 03:25 PM

195/65/15 vs 195/55/15 tire are very minimal.. you get more 10% more rubber (better for pot holes), but otherwise everything (include mount radius) is the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8699841)
New snow tires are going to run in the $400-600 range.
Best is to get a tire tread depth gauge and measure how much tread is left.

Also, make sure the tires are the right size for the car. The Elantra and a lot of newer cars run a 195/65/15 tire now adays while older cars use to run a smaller diamater 195/55/15 tire.


godwin 11-19-2015 03:27 PM

The snow compound doesn't go 100% of the tires, it is just the first 10-15%.. then they become just chunky all seasons.. if it is 25% gone, I will get new tires.

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8699819)
So ended up picking up those steelies above, now the GF's friend is selling her set of good year Nordics (Canadian tire specials?) to us for $80 they were only used for 4 months and basically have 75% tread
Remaining

At that price might as well just go with those? Are are they shitty enough to justify spending more on somthing new ?


syee 11-19-2015 03:42 PM

Costco.ca has a really good deal (at least for the size I was checking) on the Blizzak WS80's if anyone is looking. $129 (before mount and balance) Ended up being $670 out the door (mount, balance, tax, tire levy, etc) and you can probably get Costco.ca to price match the $70 rebate they'll have next month.

HKS PWR 11-19-2015 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by syee (Post 8700574)
Costco.ca has a really good deal (at least for the size I was checking) on the Blizzak WS80's if anyone is looking. $129 (before mount and balance) Ended up being $670 out the door (mount, balance, tax, tire levy, etc) and you can probably get Costco.ca to price match the $70 rebate they'll have next month.

What size?

dared3vil0 11-19-2015 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by godwin (Post 8700566)
195/65/15 vs 195/55/15 tire are very minimal.. you get more 10% more rubber (better for pot holes), but otherwise everything (include mount radius) is the same.

Uhh... Doesn't work that way... a 195/65/15 is 1.6 INCHES taller than a 195/55/15

syee 11-19-2015 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HKS PWR (Post 8700595)
What size?

Was looking for my dad's van. 215/65/16

godwin 11-20-2015 12:58 AM

Yes it is taller, but the diameter for rotor clearance, width and mounting points are still the same. Unless the car is super slammed (probably not on an DD Elantra) it will fit just fine.

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Originally Posted by dared3vil0 (Post 8700598)
Uhh... Doesn't work that way... a 195/65/15 is 1.6 INCHES taller than a 195/55/15


Liquid_o2 11-20-2015 10:23 AM

Wish I already had my winters on. Appointment scheduled for next Friday. Hate driving into my work parking lot on my summer rims and the lot is salted...

dared3vil0 11-20-2015 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godwin (Post 8700748)
Yes it is taller, but the diameter for rotor clearance, width and mounting points are still the same. Unless the car is super slammed (probably not on an DD Elantra) it will fit just fine.

I'm aware it'll probably fit, I was pointing out tire sizing doesn't work the way you stated, with going from a 55 series sidewall to a 65 series being a 10% increase. It's far more.

underscore 11-24-2015 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dared3vil0 (Post 8700864)
I'm aware it'll probably fit, I was pointing out tire sizing doesn't work the way you stated, with going from a 55 series sidewall to a 65 series being a 10% increase. It's far more.

It's technically a 10% increase in sidewall, but more than 10% increase in total diameter.

320icar 11-24-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dared3vil0 (Post 8700598)
Uhh... Doesn't work that way... a 195/65/15 is 1.6 INCHES taller than a 195/55/15

Here's the differences.


Diameter 595.5mm 634.5mm
Circumference 1870.8mm 1993.3mm
Poke 42.6mm 42.6mm
Inset 122.6mm 122.6mm
Speedo error 0% -6.15%
Reading at 30mph 30mph 28.16mph
Reading at 60mph 60mph 56.31mph
Ride height gain 0mm 19.5mm
Arch gap loss 0mm 19.5mm

No good local shop would install them. Well above the 3% rolling difference

dared3vil0 11-24-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8701915)
Here's the differences.


Diameter 595.5mm 634.5mm
Circumference 1870.8mm 1993.3mm
Poke 42.6mm 42.6mm
Inset 122.6mm 122.6mm
Speedo error 0% -6.15%
Reading at 30mph 30mph 28.16mph
Reading at 60mph 60mph 56.31mph
Ride height gain 0mm 19.5mm
Arch gap loss 0mm 19.5mm

No good local shop would install them. Well above the 3% rolling difference

Yup, hell of a lot more than 10%

alex.w *// 11-24-2015 05:52 PM

where is a *cheap* place to just * re-balance* a set of old winter tires already on steelies.

MG1 11-24-2015 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8701915)
No good local shop would install them. Well above the 3% rolling difference


thank you..............

MG1 11-24-2015 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syee (Post 8700574)
Costco.ca has a really good deal (at least for the size I was checking) on the Blizzak WS80's if anyone is looking. $129 (before mount and balance) Ended up being $670 out the door (mount, balance, tax, tire levy, etc) and you can probably get Costco.ca to price match the $70 rebate they'll have next month.

That, they will do. In fact, the Michellin truck tires I bought at Costco in Portland did not have the rebate at time of purchase, but in Canada a few weeks later, they did. Guess what? They honoured it.


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