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Old 12-06-2021, 03:10 PM   #1851
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Winter tire discussion for grown ups with occasional immature potshots thread

Got into an argument with a coworker who swears his Tesla's low-resistance tires are fine for the winter - literally his entire argument was "Teslas are great at everything".

THESE are the assholes you have to watch for on the road.
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I got to properly test out the Michelin X Ice Snows today and they behaved exactly as I expected them to. I had to really try to get them to break traction at all, as far as I was concerned the road was merely a different colour. They were drama free on the bit of heavy rain and forestry road driving I did in the fall as well. Obviously I can't report on wear yet, but so far if you want to be able to just run a small SUV on a single set of tires year round I highly recommend them.

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i'd hardly call the current little snowfall considerable enough to warrant snow tires on an AWD SUV when 90% of the city is running all seasons quite adequately - its called driving with due care.


its the dumbasses with bald or summer tires u should be whining to.
Why buy them at all then?

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Not saying this is you as you have mentioned you stay off the roads these days when conditions are less than ideal, but this is danger speak right here and a mindset the average AWD vehicle owner maintains. It's not the going, it's the stopping and your AWD SUV will not help you there. Tires will.
Slap them fancy Michelins on and enjoy superior stopping ability in lower temps.
This is why the majority of the vehicles in the ditch on the way to the ski hill are AWD/4WD with janky all seasons on. Also why I run good winters, so I can dodge the people losing control without worrying about losing it myself.
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I can say the PA4s today were good in the wet. Haha. I skipped all the snow driving and let the nutty ones get used to the extra slip and slide so they’re a bit more mindful on the next snow dumps.

Seems like Michelin PA4s do deliver on their performance of feeling very much unlike what I’ve been so used to with Blizzak LM and Dunlop 3D performance winter models. Sidewall feels firm enough and closer to an ultra performance A/S tire. Ride is comfy and quiet.

These tires seem like can handle putting around 600 ft-lbs of torque down decently in the wet right from 0kmh with some short shifting ½ way through the rev range. Then traction control may randomly engage because of the HP at the high end of the rev range trying to break lose the rear.

Placing the tires on patches of heavy/wet snow while moderately throttling feels like they have adequate and controlled longitudinal grip but I’ll have to wait on next snow fall to feel what they can laterally grip which I’m assuming will be decent.
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Apparently with just a JB1 tune I can make the VikingContact7's chirp from a stop in the wet. Granted I went from 225 stock treadwidth to 205, but it's amusing that it's possible.
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I posted that weather report pic a couple pages back. I knew temps were finally dropping below 7°C and snow was coming soon so I put my winters on over the weekend. I'm glad I held off right until I really needed to. I always put my winters on based on temps, not by the calendar date.

Not going to lie, I was kind of happy when I saw the snow this morning. Feels kind of good when I know I nailed the timing right.
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Acura604 you ok man? You also blew up in the RE thread. You used to be pretty chill - hope things are alright and we can get back to the winter/summer swap updates.
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Acura604 you ok man? You also blew up in the RE thread. You used to be pretty chill - hope things are alright and we can get back to the winter/summer swap updates.
He can be chill and blow up whenever he want. Just like he's allowed to list and delist whenever, not our concern
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Looking for a set of 205/55R17 winter tires, any one have shop suggestions to hit up?
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Looking for a set of 205/55R17 winter tires, any one have shop suggestions to hit up?
I bought this size at 1010 Tire aka Volco in Coquitlam. Went with the Conti Viking7 tires as they had them in stock and a decent price - no one could get them locally in Squamish for over a month.
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Looking for a set of 205/55R17 winter tires, any one have shop suggestions to hit up?
I have a set of 17x6.5, 5x114, CB67.1, ET39 if you need steelies
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Do those tire manufacturer rebates usually run year round or do they actually come and go depending on the season?

I'm not sure if these rebates are trying to make me act fast or if I can just wait it out until I'm actually ready to buy?
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The seem to pop up around summer and winter.
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Yearly rebates is what I've noticed.
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Also once in a while, Canadian Tire has deep discounts on top tier brand winter tires like Michelin and Continental

EDIT: Last year I was able to pick up a set of Michelin Snow's 215/55/17 for $700 taxes in
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FINALLY... slapped on..but i'll be watching temps... if i see 10 deg C anytime soon.... !!!!

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All in right in the world again. Acura 604 plays with his 10 sets of wheels.
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Bought Continental snow tires on Saturday for the S4 and man what a difference.
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no more impact guns for me... stripped and broke too many lugs ...
must be the cheap mastercraft gun who knows...

from now on.. breaker bar, torque wrench and standard lug wrench.

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You should never start a nut with an impact, always hand thread them first or you'll cross-thread the piss out of them.
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