Winter tire discussion for grown ups thread.

[320icar]

Originally Posted by SkunkWorks

^ where do you get the sailuns from?

it'll go well with my 8POR license plate

I actually got them from 1010tires, installed on bridgeport. Was happy with the process/service and ordering online. Good correspondence since another tire I wanted was NLA

[SkunkWorks]

Originally Posted by SSM_DC5

Show us your plate

#latestpicofyowhip

[bcrdukes]

lol how did you explain the meaning behind your vanity plate when you registered it?

and lol @ sailun and 8por

[yray]

say sailun in Canto guys

you will not unsee

[EvoFire]

So I took the M3 out yesterday on 255/45/18 xice3 - cause the kid wanted the blue car....
I took the X3 out today on 255/45/20 DWS06+, brand new from a month ago.

Gunning it from a stop of course the X3 is going to do well with less power and AWD. But considering I wasn't terribly impressed with the xice3 when I first got them, they definitely feel more planted around a corner and I can put power down better coming out of a turn.
The xice3 despite being on the car for the 3rd season, has only around 3k on it max.

Breaking news - old winters are better than quasi all weather tires

[twitchyzero]

Coquitlam fam where’s the gnarliest hill to test tires?

[BIC_BAWS]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

Coquitlam fam where’s the gnarliest hill to test tires?

Per SCV, Dawes Hill in Coquitlam

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[roverT]

Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS

Per SCV, Dawes Hill in Coquitlam

This. Test the East side first. Then test the west side if you dare after a fresh snowfall. I was lucky and probably stupid to try our AWD minivan on winters one year when 20cm fell overnight. I was able to make it up to two houses from the top then all tires couldn’t get anymore traction to conquer the summit. Good thing I could back down and because of fresh snow, I had enough traction to keep speed controlled on the decline.

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by LancerBoy

First time on snow using the Michelin Cross Climate 2+ all-weather tires. They're rated M+S with a snowflake symbol. Went up to sfu in snowy conditions. Full confidence in the tires during acceleration, braking, turns. Only time it understeered was on a 90 degree turn and deliberately accelerating hard.

Highly recommend these all weather tires, especially for Vancouver where it only snows for a week then the rain washes it all away (unlike alberta). For people who doesnt like to swap tires twice a year, or who have storage problems ie: living in a condo. And for people who dont use the coq hwy or go up the ski slopes multiple times.

Great to hear. Everything I read about the CC2 is that it's an awesome all around tire - I think it is a better bet than the DWS for nearly all people now. Not having to change tires twice is a year would be great.

[underscore]

I've done a bit more scientific research with the X-Ice Snow, through deep snow, ice, compact snow, etc they just grab on and go. I managed to get a tiny bit of wheel spin when I hammered it from a red light but that was it. When I do intentionally break them loose (which you really have to want to do) it's very controllable and the back end snaps back into line with ease.

[LancerBoy]

Originally Posted by supafamous

Great to hear. Everything I read about the CC2 is that it's an awesome all around tire - I think it is a better bet than the DWS for nearly all people now. Not having to change tires twice is a year would be great.

Yes, the CC2 is definitely more confident than the DWS06 with one being a "claw" tread all weather tire and the other as a high performance tire that is good for light snow. I have both on the cars and the DWS06 loses grip way earlier when compared to CC2. Mind you, one is AWD SUV vs RWD sedan

[Tr1ll]

Pretty impressed with my Continental Vikingcontact 7s on a GS400. Aside from a little bit of sliding on the Sea to Sky over some black ice, they have done really well with daily drives from the city to Squamish and back.

[Hondaracer]

Couldn’t see myself ever trusting a tire called goal star catchpowers lol..

First real test for our Michelin X-ice 3’s over this past weekend, they are pretty fantastic. Can drive with virtually no slipping under proper throttle. Hills, etc. going from paved to hard packed exit ramps, no worries

[68style]

Originally Posted by Tr1ll

Pretty impressed with my Continental Vikingcontact 7s on a GS400. Aside from a little bit of sliding on the Sea to Sky over some black ice, they have done really well with daily drives from the city to Squamish and back.

I was about to get some Viking 7's yesterday and the guy backed out on me last minute... was looking forward to them. I've never owned snow tires before but I need some for ice autocross.

[320icar]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Couldn’t see myself ever trusting a tire called goal star catchpowers lol..

You do you, but since I forgot the other lug nuts at home accidentally I had to run them on track, they did great for a $72 tire lol. Could have been worse

[mickz]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

Coquitlam fam where’s the gnarliest hill to test tires?

Gatensbury or Thermal coming up from Port Moody

[320icar]

After some street sharking my car felt like it was going to explode. Don’t forget to clear your wheels of ice/snow lol

[JDMDreams]

I haven't driven in this much snow for a while, last time was a x5 with nexen snow tires. I'm running Antares grip 20 on a fwd right now. Is it normal to still slip at starts? On slushy thick snow? All the roads are pretty much still unplowed and ppl are drifting in their BMW with all seasons and there was a lady in her 350z sliding.

So I'm wondering if it's better to let the traction freak out at starts cut power and eventually get grip? Or just turn traction off.?

[trollface]

I drive a lowered FRS.

Just turn it off and let her sping a bit and grab.

[SumAznGuy]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

I haven't driven in this much snow for a while, last time was a x5 with nexen snow tires. I'm running Antares grip 20 on a fwd right now. Is it normal to still slip at starts? On slushy thick snow? All the roads are pretty much still unplowed and ppl are drifting in their BMW with all seasons and there was a lady in her 350z sliding.

So I'm wondering if it's better to let the traction freak out at starts cut power and eventually get grip? Or just turn traction off.?

Bit of both. Your tires are spinning because the tread is full of snow so there no grip, but allowing them to spin will allow the snow to free itself from the tread so you will get some bit.
Too much wheel spin and you won't get any traction.

[yray]

I am spinning and sliding from start, once I hit 30km/h I get pretty damm good traction.

Anything slower I struggle to get traction.

I'll probably end up on reddit vancouver soon.

running SI plus on a slk, loaded all my tools in the trunk though.

[roastpuff]

More update on the PA4 on the A4 Allroad:

They don't like deep snow - probably don't have enough void space to grab/bite due to the tread design. So the tires need a bit of wheelspin before catching, even with quattro, and then they can head out. Same with the border regions on the road where the slushy mix thrown off by cars passing by end up. You can almost feel the tread filling up and then throwing the slush/snow clear, regaining grip.

One thing that is especially notable is when you are turning out of an unplowed side street into a cleared main road, the rear tires tend to slide and then catch suddenly as they find grip once past the slush zone that accumulates. A bit unsettling if you're not expecting it.

This is not to say that the tires are not controllable, but that the ultimate grip levels are lacking compared to a true studless winter tire such as the Blizzak/Hakka/X-Ice family. However, as they are performance winter tires, not especially surprising.

[roverT]

I feel you on the PA4s. They have their strengths and weaknesses. As long as you can find a tire that ticks most of your boxes and you can accept or find your way from the unchecked boxes, that tire you chose will be ideal for you.



I went out this morning after clearing the driveway. Snow was high enough that any snow hitting the front bumper went up over the hood. Anything new and powder, the PA4s hardly flinched. It was once the snow got thick and squishy from others driving in it, is when the tires started to feel they had to start working for their money. As long as I got a slight spin in them they could grab and I just kept on throttle to maintain momentum. In a RWD, get used to going sideways with traction control fully off when you’ve turned from a plowed road into an unplowed road with deep heavy snow. You’ll need to control a slight drift until you’ve got up to your cruising speed. I’m glad this car uses rear brakes to fake out the open diff to semi-replicate an LSD so both rear tires grip and give me two-wheel traction vs a standard open diff / one-wheel drive.



That being said I think this tire is perfect for “my” needs and this car’s power output when there is no snow. As long as I pick my battles in the snow semi-wisely, the PA4s will reward with super fun controllable traction where residents shoveling their deep covered powder driveways will wonder how the eff I’m getting around in a lowered RWD German tractor whistling my way up a hill. LOL

[twitchyzero]

Originally Posted by roastpuff

More update on the PA4 on the A4 Allroad

today was 6-8" mostly unplowed so i assume clearance issues come into play?

[roastpuff]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

today was 6-8" mostly unplowed so i assume clearance issues come into play?

Not really IMO, the Allroad has 6.5 inches of clearance and the front lip kind of scrapes most of the stuff that's really high. Wasn't scraping that much for the most part.