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the_rickster 11-20-2014 05:58 PM

questions about framing a pony wall
 
hi guys, i'm going to build a straight 12' long x 8' tall pony wall, attached to one wall at studs. i'm wondering if this is going to be stable or if i'll need to add reinforcement of some kind. i'll be using steel frame on concrete floor.

thanks.

blkgsr 11-21-2014 05:10 PM

is it running full height to the ceiling? you'll want to secure it to the ceiling joints/structure somehow

if it's just a free standing wall will only attachments at the one end and floor it's going to be wobbly as fuck

Hondaracer 11-24-2014 05:37 PM

im assuming it's only a half wall or smaller since you used the term pony

typically in wooden framing these would be secured heavilly with scructural straps. If it's on a concrete floor i'd say some leg bolts with big nuts + washers in the bottom plate would be best if you can

get a hammer drill, drill the hole, get some Hilti hit or some other sort of adhesive, get the bolts in place then drop the wall over the holes and secure with the nuts + washers

BrRsn 11-24-2014 05:40 PM

assuming you don't have radiant heating, what hondaracer mentioned sounds pretty good. I've done something similar w/ epoxy as the adhesive

blkgsr 11-25-2014 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8560298)
im assuming it's only a half wall or smaller since you used the term pony

typically in wooden framing these would be secured heavilly with scructural straps. If it's on a concrete floor i'd say some leg bolts with big nuts + washers in the bottom plate would be best if you can

get a hammer drill, drill the hole, get some Hilti hit or some other sort of adhesive, get the bolts in place then drop the wall over the holes and secure with the nuts + washers

he said it was 12'x8'(high), that's full height in most houses hence my question

you're recommendation for bolting to concrete is WAY overkill......hammer drill 5/8" bit, wire and 3 1/4" duplex nails ever 2' is more than enough to keep that wall from moving......you can use screw in anchors is you want but epoxying rod is way too much, it's not a structural wall......same with the straps, only used in load bearing walls

Hondaracer 11-25-2014 06:33 AM

We use straps in all our pony walls. But typically they are at the top a stair landing so it would be quite dangerous if the wall were to give away lol

Yea the duplex and wire is probably a much easier idea

quasi 11-25-2014 08:58 AM

It's been said but the term pony wall by definition is a short wall usually like 3' or less high. Is there a ceiling above? If there is a ceiling just brace to U/S Slab/deck above the wall.

If I was going to do a traditional pony wall 3' or less depending on the span I'd use a brace similar to the one linked below at the end of the wall and possibly in the field depending on the span.

http://www.scafco.com/upload/userfil...s/Ponywall.png

the_rickster 11-25-2014 03:26 PM

bracing to the ceiling and or joists is not an option. too high. yes you're right a pony wall by definition is usually short, but in this case i was using the term to explain that it isn't full height or attached to two studs.

i've been advised by a framing expert to attach an eyelet bolt to the top corner of the end of the wall and another to the bottom corner of the wall that will be on the stud, run aircraft cable from top to bottom through the stud and get it as tense as possible. he said this will greatly reduce flexing in the wall. i've done a ton of research on finding the best way to do this wall and i have never heard of this technique.

blkgsr 11-26-2014 01:58 AM

ya that works


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