| Vancouver Auto Chat 2016 VAC Community Head Moderator: Raid3n |
 | | 
12-18-2015, 07:28 PM
|
#126 | | Performance Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Richmond
Posts: 17,256
Thanked 18,194 Times in 6,116 Posts
Failed 293 Times in 189 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo  I don't see the RS listing winter tires/wheels are standard equipment... just the summers.
| "In Canada, a winter tire/wheel package will be standard equipment on the Focus RS and will be shipped separately to the dealership."
| 
|  | |
12-18-2015, 07:43 PM
|
#127 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
|
It doesn't show up on the configurator lol It's not that I don't believe you.
__________________ Quote: |
Originally Posted by jasonturbo Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life | | 
| | |
12-18-2015, 09:34 PM
|
#128 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Coquitlam
Posts: 5,324
Thanked 3,782 Times in 1,242 Posts
Failed 533 Times in 187 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo Just in terms of power, the VW drive train can make crushing power with a flash and downpipe... if that's what you're worried about.
I don't see the RS listing winter tires/wheels are standard equipment... just the summers.
Here in Alberta it's a 10K discount if you go with the Golf R Base vs Focus RS... if you DSG and tech package a Golf R it's like 46.5K... which I also think is insane. | So you void your warranty to get into the same power class? haha.
I'm gonna go ahead and ASSume that the RS will be available in a "base" model next year. They just want their first gen, first year cars, to have all the bells and whistles.
I don't think the price is too far off just a smidge on the high side. But they could have made the tires/wheel combo option and save the buyers say $2000.
__________________
'16 Ram 1500
| |
| | |
12-18-2015, 10:26 PM
|
#129 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Okanagan
Posts: 16,935
Thanked 9,638 Times in 4,208 Posts
Failed 430 Times in 228 Posts
|
According to the TV ad I saw, all new Fords will come with summers and winters. While it seems like a good idea, most vehicles ship with shit tires, so if the supplied winters are just as bad it's more of an inconvenience then a perk.
__________________ 1991 Toyota Celica GTFour RC // 2007 Toyota Rav4 V6 // 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1992 Toyota Celica GT-S ["sold"] \\ 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD [sold] \\ 2000 Jeep Cherokee [sold] \\ 1997 Honda Prelude [sold] \\ 1992 Jeep YJ [sold/crashed] \\ 1987 Mazda RX-7 [sold] \\ 1987 Toyota Celica GT-S [crushed] Quote:
Originally Posted by maksimizer half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF. | Quote:
Originally Posted by RevYouUp reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z | Quote:
Originally Posted by Good_KarMa OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry: | | |
| | |
12-19-2015, 09:20 AM
|
#130 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Cloverdale
Posts: 319
Thanked 956 Times in 170 Posts
Failed 27 Times in 8 Posts
|
"Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires and wheels for summer and Michelin Alpin PA4 winters mounted on 18" alloy wheels for winter"
You will get highly rated winters and summers both mounted on alloy wheels both with TPM
| |
| | |
12-19-2015, 11:29 AM
|
#131 | | Everyone wants a piece of R S...
Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Van
Posts: 369
Thanked 87 Times in 42 Posts
Failed 4 Times in 2 Posts
|
I'm guessing dealers marked these cars up at least 5gs over sticker price.
Was checking prices on EVO final editions, some dealers have been asking 56-58gs.
In terms of rarity probably the same number of units released to Canada? 350?
| |
| | |
12-19-2015, 10:05 PM
|
#132 | | NEWBIE ACCOUNT!
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: vancouver
Posts: 15
Thanked 33 Times in 6 Posts
Failed 22 Times in 2 Posts
|
$48.6k including frieght and pdi is not too much for a German made 340hp AWD hot hatch......
A Golf R with similar options priced at $48.9k with tech pack and F&P too.
A STi with Tech pack is $47.5k
| |
| | |
12-21-2015, 10:52 AM
|
#133 | | RS.net, where our google ads make absolutely no sense!
Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Van
Posts: 930
Thanked 53 Times in 30 Posts
Failed 13 Times in 3 Posts
|
Its pricey but not too overprice. the RS is made in Germany and pretty much same price as a STi. and its the closest thing come from Ford to the iconic Escort RS Cosworth that hit the market over 20 years ago. Now imagine if Lancia bring back the Delta Integrale or Toyota bring back the Celica GT-4.
| |
| | |
12-26-2015, 07:50 AM
|
#134 | | Witness protection
Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: GVRD
Posts: 14,427
Thanked 5,343 Times in 2,222 Posts
Failed 111 Times in 57 Posts
|
ugh. i spoke to a salesperson from key west ford and he said the dealership was only allocated one RS for 2016 (not including any customer factory orders)... i don't know what it's like at the other dealerships but just how rare is this going to be? 
__________________
"The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
| |
| | |
12-26-2015, 08:17 AM
|
#135 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
|
If anyone wants an RS and the local dealers say that they can't get you one, start calling small town dealers.
Worked for me with my MK7 R.
__________________ Quote: |
Originally Posted by jasonturbo Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life | | |
| | |
12-26-2015, 08:41 AM
|
#136 | | Witness protection
Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: GVRD
Posts: 14,427
Thanked 5,343 Times in 2,222 Posts
Failed 111 Times in 57 Posts
|
__________________
"The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
| |
| | |
12-26-2015, 10:25 AM
|
#137 | | :: Sells McLarens, Not tofu :okay: ::
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: vancouver
Posts: 10,758
Thanked 11,829 Times in 3,335 Posts
Failed 211 Times in 89 Posts
|
man.. the world we live in today.
$50k ford focus 
__________________
13' Nissan DBA-R35 GT-R Black Ed - Black met. - "Sophia"
90' Honda EF Civic HB // 04' Honda Pilot Granite
- The Drinker of Many Many Coffees @ McLaren Vancouver
| |
| | |
12-26-2015, 11:22 AM
|
#138 | | Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Cloverdale
Posts: 319
Thanked 956 Times in 170 Posts
Failed 27 Times in 8 Posts
|
Dealerships were not allowed to order a RS unless there was a customers name on the build sheet. First year is by factory order only. They want the RS to be exclusive and hard to get creating more demand (at least at first). Each dealership was allowed to order as many as they wanted until the contracted number of units built with the factory was filled. Following the old rule of "build one less then the people demand". The mark up is actually similar to an STI. Just because it's domestic doesn't mean it has 5-10k of markup. This is actually only true in the truck world tbh.
The order process is pretty easy for the RS because it only comes fully loaded. Only thing you have to chose is color. Ordering one will take as long and be as complicated as remembering how to spell your name
| |
| | |
12-26-2015, 02:46 PM
|
#139 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by brrrz Dealerships were not allowed to order a RS unless there was a customers name on the build sheet. | This is either not true, or the dealers are bucking the system.
I know of one dealer here that plans to have two of these in their showroom for sale.
This same dealer also offered me an RS if I wanted one, 100% he could get it for me.
Sauce: He manages the dealership, just talked to him 5 minutes ago and confirmed this.
Ultimately it should not be that hard to get one, is anyone here actually ordering one?
__________________ Quote: |
Originally Posted by jasonturbo Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life | | |
| | |
12-26-2015, 02:48 PM
|
#140 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Richmond
Posts: 8,460
Thanked 14,929 Times in 3,898 Posts
Failed 471 Times in 216 Posts
|
If I had he money, 100% but I'm fine with my focus st for $20k less
| |
| | |
12-26-2015, 02:53 PM
|
#141 | | :: Sells McLarens, Not tofu :okay: ::
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: vancouver
Posts: 10,758
Thanked 11,829 Times in 3,335 Posts
Failed 211 Times in 89 Posts
|
makes the ST focus tremendous value compared to RS.
__________________
13' Nissan DBA-R35 GT-R Black Ed - Black met. - "Sophia"
90' Honda EF Civic HB // 04' Honda Pilot Granite
- The Drinker of Many Many Coffees @ McLaren Vancouver
| |
| | |
12-26-2015, 05:50 PM
|
#142 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Richmond
Posts: 8,460
Thanked 14,929 Times in 3,898 Posts
Failed 471 Times in 216 Posts
|
Yeah. I mean, once I see an RS in person with the sick driveline, brakes, body kit and recaro seats I will probably feel a bit different. But I could go buy a fiesta ST used for less than the difference of trading the st and getting an RS. And could make that a stripped out track car lol.
I'm just rambling. Hiding on revscene to avoid conversation with the mother in law
| |
| | |
12-26-2015, 06:12 PM
|
#143 | | NEWBIE ACCOUNT!
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: vancouver
Posts: 15
Thanked 33 Times in 6 Posts
Failed 22 Times in 2 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by tofu1413 man.. the world we live in today.
$50k ford focus | Don't forget it's a German made Ford.
A Golf R with less power costs the even more with the same amount of options equipped and STi/Evo are only $1000 cheaper.
Evo is
People pays over $80k for an American made MB or BMW.
| |
| | |
12-26-2015, 08:06 PM
|
#144 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by g-velocity Don't forget it's a German made Ford.
A Golf R with less power costs the even more with the same amount of options equipped and STi/Evo are only $1000 cheaper.
Evo is
People pays over $80k for an American made MB or BMW. | I paid 42K for my Golf R taxes in, 6MT w/ Nav.
If you option out a Golf R with DSG it's no longer comparably equipped for one, and it's still far less money.
According to the websites:
My Base 6MT Golf
39995 + 1605 Freight PDI + GST = $43,680
Loaded DSG w/ Tech Golf
43410 + 1605 freight PDI + GST = $47,265
Focus RS Base (No fancy blue paint)
46969 + 1700 "Fees" + GST = $48,754
Though the website actually quoted me @ $51,103 after taxes.
Base STI
37995 + 521.25 "fees" + 1650 freight PDI + GST = $42,174
Sport Tech STI (Has NAV, probably the better comparison)
45395 + 521.25 "fees" + 1650 freight PDI + GST = $47,566
Evo MR
51998 - 2500 Incentive + 129.55 "fees" + 1600 freight PDI + GST = $53,788 (No Nav lol, with Nav it's $57,883)
Evo GSR w/ Nav
45982 -2500 Incentive + 129.55 "fees" + 1600 freight PDI + GST = $47,472
So then comparably equipped (Minus the fact that you can't get a Golf R w/ Sunroof/moonroof)
Golf R - $43,680
EVO GSR w/ Nav - $47,472
STI Sport Tech - $47,566
Focus RS - $51,103
Maybe I'm retarded, but from what I can see, Golf R still the cheapest, Focus RS still the most expensive, and there exists a massive 7400$ delta between the Golf and the Focus.
Disclaimer - There are no "fees" listed on the VW website, looking at the bill of sale for my R, I paid a total of;
$6.25 AMVIC
$20 Tire Levy
$100 Air Tax
__________________ Quote: |
Originally Posted by jasonturbo Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life | | |
| | |
12-26-2015, 08:59 PM
|
#145 | | Everyone wants a piece of R S...
Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Somewhere
Posts: 362
Thanked 654 Times in 148 Posts
Failed 52 Times in 17 Posts
|
I've been trying to find an allocation for a while. Could someone kindly PM me and lead me to the right direction? Much appreciated.
| |
| | |
12-26-2015, 09:14 PM
|
#146 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by NKC ONE I've been trying to find an allocation for a while. Could someone kindly PM me and lead me to the right direction? Much appreciated. | PM sent
__________________ Quote: |
Originally Posted by jasonturbo Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life | | |
| | |
12-27-2015, 12:18 AM
|
#147 | | NEWBIE ACCOUNT!
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: vancouver
Posts: 15
Thanked 33 Times in 6 Posts
Failed 22 Times in 2 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonturbo I paid 42K for my Golf R taxes in, 6MT w/ Nav.
If you option out a Golf R with DSG it's no longer comparably equipped for one, and it's still far less money.
According to the websites:
My Base 6MT Golf
39995 + 1605 Freight PDI + GST = $43,680
Loaded DSG w/ Tech Golf
43410 + 1605 freight PDI + GST = $47,265
Focus RS Base (No fancy blue paint)
46969 + 1700 "Fees" + GST = $48,754
Though the website actually quoted me @ $51,103 after taxes.
Base STI
37995 + 521.25 "fees" + 1650 freight PDI + GST = $42,174
Sport Tech STI (Has NAV, probably the better comparison)
45395 + 521.25 "fees" + 1650 freight PDI + GST = $47,566
Evo MR
51998 - 2500 Incentive + 129.55 "fees" + 1600 freight PDI + GST = $53,788 (No Nav lol, with Nav it's $57,883)
Evo GSR w/ Nav
45982 -2500 Incentive + 129.55 "fees" + 1600 freight PDI + GST = $47,472
So then comparably equipped (Minus the fact that you can't get a Golf R w/ Sunroof/moonroof)
Golf R - $43,680
EVO GSR w/ Nav - $47,472
STI Sport Tech - $47,566
Focus RS - $51,103
Maybe I'm retarded, but from what I can see, Golf R still the cheapest, Focus RS still the most expensive, and there exists a massive 7400$ delta between the Golf and the Focus.
Disclaimer - There are no "fees" listed on the VW website, looking at the bill of sale for my R, I paid a total of;
$6.25 AMVIC
$20 Tire Levy
$100 Air Tax | All right Keyboard Warrior,
I didn't realize the price of the R is actually price included.
However, why don't you compare apple to apple.
The RS comes with navi and moon roof which is equivalent to R with Tech pack/PDI/Freight makes it $43615 + tax and other fees.
RS still makes more power than the R by 60 more HP and 70 more lb/ft torque .
Its the most powerful vehicle amount the vehicles above.
You can argue all day about how expensive the RS is but fact is still a very high demand car.
BTW, the STi Tech pack is 47565 before tax which is 1000 less than for Focus RS.
| |
| | |
12-27-2015, 12:23 AM
|
#148 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Richmond
Posts: 8,460
Thanked 14,929 Times in 3,898 Posts
Failed 471 Times in 216 Posts
|
Sure but I would take an RS over a golf R over and over and over. Personal taste, so stop arguing it
| |
| | |
12-27-2015, 06:47 AM
|
#149 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Van
Posts: 2,849
Thanked 7,109 Times in 1,264 Posts
Failed 291 Times in 102 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by g-velocity All right Keyboard Warrior, | Lol
Base R still comes with Nav 6.5" screen, tech pack comes with 8" nav screen. Not that it matters, even a loaded DSG car still costs less than the RS.
You said a comparably equipped Golf R costs more than the RS which is incorrect. Go buy an RS if you want a one I don't care lol maybe you prefer how the RS looks or you feel you really need that extra 60hp on the street etc.
Sorry I stumbled into fanboy convo, I didn't realize that's what this thread is.
__________________ Quote: |
Originally Posted by jasonturbo Follow me on Instagram @jasonturtle if you want to feel better about your life | | |
| | |
12-27-2015, 07:46 AM
|
#150 | | Witness protection
Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: GVRD
Posts: 14,427
Thanked 5,343 Times in 2,222 Posts
Failed 111 Times in 57 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by NKC ONE I've been trying to find an allocation for a while. Could someone kindly PM me and lead me to the right direction? Much appreciated. | contact ryan at key west ford. https://www.facebook.com/ryanleveret...ves/?ref=br_rs
__________________
"The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
| |
| | | |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
| | |
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:15 PM.
|
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!
