E90 M3 Sedan - Should I do it?

[jmanhas]

best of both worlds?
convertible with a hardtop, unless you're planning to track your E46
2001 BMW M3 E46 Cabrio w/ Removable Hardtop

[bomiheko]

I'm thinking of a C63 now that one popped up. Around 35k kms 2009 model fully loaded for $43k. Gonna get my finances right and see what happens.

[Z3guy]

Originally Posted by Energy

Add E85 and the car flies



Sure, hypothetically even if you cannot use ALL the power off the line the midrange power and passing ability of a modded 335i is just amazing. And the engine is just so smooth and the torque is perfect for day to day driving. No E46 or E92 M3 is going to pass me in straight line unless they've gone FI.

Not knocking the M3 in terms of handling but M3 owners should just accept that they have less power.

How about stroker motor making 527hp? 335i owners are hilarious

[mikey2781]

Originally Posted by Z3guy

How about stroker motor making 527hp? 335i owners are hilarious

What's more hilarious is youve spent around $50k for the full dinan package on top of a $90k car and you compare it to a $50k car.
I'm sure Energy implied "no e9x m3 can beat him in a straight unless owner spends absurd amount money"

I hate actually hate the look of my brother's e90, ugliest sedan of its class in that generation.

[Z3guy]

^ you are funny as well. That is the response from juvenile kids on m3 forums. Let me guess what you think......" Get a supercharger and coilovers and you will kill a dinan car" haha! I love revscene for people like you.

[mikey2781]

Originally Posted by Z3guy

^ you are funny as well. That is the response from juvenile kids on m3 forums. Let me guess what you think......" Get a supercharger and coilovers and you will kill a dinan car" haha! I love revscene for people like you.

Let me guess what YOU think, golden iPhone user?

M3 owners to 335i owners: "bro, I have an M car" / "bro, I have an i Phone"
You to m3 owners: "bro, I have a dinan M car" / "bro, I have a golden i Phone"

Dude you're like a step above everyone and smarter than all those juvenile kids on the m3 forum.

I don't know how many people out there actually believes a Dinan car can outrun a supercharged M3 with whatever the top of the line suspension parts are made for the M3, but you're the first I've seen.

Seeing is believing, and I do not see any numbers or convincing videos on the Dinan M3.

[gripenM]

i don't care if the 335i is faster in a straight line and this and that...
335i guys seem to have such a complex and always have to defend themselves.
the M3 guys are never the ones to start this stupid argument
the 335i's aren't bad as daily's of course. That's what they're built for
And I even really like the 335is

but at the end of the day, 5-10 yrs from now, I'll look at the 335i same way i look at
an E30 325i or an E46 330i or an E36 328i: I won't
I won't even give them a second glance, they're all the same: an old BMW

M cars on the other hand, I will always give them a second glance, no matter how old
they're just special

[Z3guy]

Originally Posted by mikey2781

Let me guess what YOU think, golden iPhone user?

M3 owners to 335i owners: "bro, I have an M car" / "bro, I have an i Phone"
You to m3 owners: "bro, I have a dinan M car" / "bro, I have a golden i Phone"

Dude you're like a step above everyone and smarter than all those juvenile kids on the m3 forum.

I don't know how many people out there actually believes a Dinan car can outrun a supercharged M3 with whatever the top of the line suspension parts are made for the M3, but you're the first I've seen.

Seeing is believing, and I do not see any numbers or convincing videos on the Dinan M3.

First off wtf analogy? Whoever said dinan cars are faster than sc m3? Have you heard about oem level reliability with warranty vs a. Voodoo mix of parts you researched on forums lol! I am sure you would have no issue buying a used m3 that has been supercharged haha!

[mikey2781]

Originally Posted by gripenM

...
335i guys seem to have such a complex and always have to defend themselves.
the M3 guys are never the ones to start this stupid argument ...

335i guys defend themselves like how suby, evo and any car guys defend themselves They bought their car for a reason, and a good reason for their own purposes.

I did a quick search, and um the arguments came from 2 m3 owners one after another. One e46 and one e36 owner.

One guy was like, why not a 335i? and boom, the 2 m3 owners had to talk about the cheesy "driving experience".

I don't even have a 335i, my brother does and I've driven it many times. I destroy that car easily with my stock F80 M3.
But the E9x M3 was just so out of place. Weight is just no longer like the past m3's, it's a different kind of car.

Originally Posted by Z3guy

First off wtf analogy? Whoever said dinan cars are faster than sc m3? Have you heard about oem level reliability with warranty vs a. Voodoo mix of parts you researched on forums lol! I am sure you would have no issue buying a used m3 that has been supercharged haha!

" Let me guess what you think......" Get a supercharger and coilovers and you will kill a dinan car" "

Not sure how else to interpret that.

And buying a 4.0L to 4.6L stroker kitted M3 that's out of warranty makes it sound any better?

[gripenM]

Originally Posted by mikey2781

335i guys defend themselves like how suby, evo and any car guys defend themselves They bought their car for a reason, and a good reason for their own purposes.

I did a quick search, and um the arguments came from 2 m3 owners one after another. One e46 and one e36 owner.

One guy was like, why not a 335i? and boom, the 2 m3 owners had to talk about the cheesy "driving experience".

I don't even have a 335i, my brother does and I've driven it many times. I destroy that car easily with my stock F80 M3.
But the E9x M3 was just so out of place. Weight is just no longer like the past m3's, it's a different kind of car.

Negative. look again. 335i owners are the ones who end with a snide comment.

so the E9x M3 is out of place?
the F80 M3's weight is not that far off from the E90 M3 either,
the E92 is just under 3500 lbs the sedan being slightly heavier.

The F80 M3 is just 10's of pounds different from the E9x

and the non-M car you claimed was "half a ton" lighter than the same gen M3?
The 335i is actually heavier at just under 3600 lbs

good on you for getting an F80 M3 though

[westopher]

Originally Posted by mikey2781

335i guys defend themselves like how suby, evo and any car guys defend themselves They bought their car for a reason, and a good reason for their own purposes.

I did a quick search, and um the arguments came from 2 m3 owners one after another. One e46 and one e36 owner.

One guy was like, why not a 335i? and boom, the 2 m3 owners had to talk about the cheesy "driving experience".

Assuming I am the e36 owner being I'm the only e36 m3 owner in this thread. I never once made a comment about a "cheesy driving experience." I don't like the implications of me being insulting or confrontational in this thread when I clearly haven't been.

[jmanhas]

All I did was state why I chose my car based on my experience. I know everybodys not the same, or else we would all drive the same cars. I purposely worded my post so it wouldnt seem like I'm bashing on the 335i because I do appreciate the car for what it is, it just isnt for me.

[AudiFreak]

Reading this thread gave me a headache..

[underscore]

A bit off topic but didn't someone recently determine that Dinan "tuning" doesn't actually do anything?

[j3welz]

YouTube

[meme405]

I know very little about BMW's, but I wouldn't believe someone trying to tell me that an standard 335i is better than an M3.

What's next? A WRX is better than an STI? A Lancer Ralliart is better than a Evo? An S600 is better than an S65 AMG?

You can argue that certain aspects based on what you want out of the thing might be better in one vs the other, and you can argue that the premium to purchase an M3 vs a 335i might not be worth it, but to try and say flat out that a 335 is a better vehicle is just dumb. It's clearly not, as any automotive journalist or driver will tell you that M cars are among some of the best cars to drive.

[The_AK]

What have I done...

[multicartual]

Listen to all of the butthurt guys throwing numbers around of engines they don't have and horsepower they don't make, bench racing and speculating on a forum


Jesus this is why I'm going to drive a piece of shit but then just work out more than you guys and dress better, you know, things that matter in life!

[mikey2781]

@meme405, no one said 335i is better please read and re read again. They basically only said acceleration is faster and therefore is more usable as a daily.

I can laugh at all the tuned 335i owners if they think their faster than my f80 on a straight. But e9x owners can't.

This is why you don't see people comparing non m e46 with m3s and you don't see f3x 335i/435 compare themselves to F8x. There is no comparison between those.

Originally Posted by j3welz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUD1c5LezYo

Awesome, the typical video that the "juveniles" on m3post replies with.

[Z3guy]

^ you should have bought a gtr lol!

[trollguy]

Originally Posted by underscore

A bit off topic but didn't someone recently determine that Dinan "tuning" doesn't actually do anything?

does their 'tuning' include throwing on a SC? lol

i've had the pleasure of driving a E39 Dinan5 way back in the day.. yup, it works and never skipped a beat. hhaha

[Z3guy]

^ on e39 M5 and e46 M3. When you go Dinan, you are not buying "good value hp", you are buying reliability, driveability, and resale value.....

[meme405]

Originally Posted by mikey2781

@meme405, no one said 335i is better please read and re read again. They basically only said acceleration is faster and therefore is more usable as a daily.

Ohhh. Sorry I was confused, I didn't realize acceleration was the single metric used to judge how good of a daily driver a particular vehicle would be.

I forgot that you have to use LC from one red light to the next down Robson.

[mikey2781]

@meme405 so there are 2 things you're implying here:
1. M3 is a better daily driver than a 3 series.
2. Handling is therefore more important for a daily driver
3. And you STILL do not understand that they never said they are better cars.

First of all, you have a bagged fx35. Why? Because you like the car, you want it to look good. Why not a x6m or a better suv? Because it costs a shit load more and does not benefit YOU.

And I'm sorry too but I didn't know I had to turn faster than the non ms on the Granville to downtown bridge. Nor did I know I have to beat a light to save 1min with my wheels squealing to eat my kintaro ramen.

Reason you chose your car is same reason why these 335i guys chose their cars. Cheaper yet faster in a straight than m3 and yet same practicality, luxuriousness, and more comfortable than an m3.

AFAIK, my brothers 335i does not have lc so idk...

[mikey2781]

Originally Posted by Z3guy

^ you should have bought a gtr lol!

Nope. Have 2 kids that I drive every day and they chose the colour of my car which the gtr does not have.