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Old 01-30-2015, 12:20 PM   #1
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E90 M3 Sedan - Should I do it?

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Came across an opportunity to purchase a 2009 E90 M3 sedan. Yes with a 6 speed manual. Car is from U.S with 75k kms. I really love the E46 M but finding a decent one is like finding a unicorn so I've pretty much given up.

Anyone have experience with these newer Ms and know anything about their reliability?

I love my TL to death and that's another issue if I want to give up the nav and sound system and tech that it has and go to a car where it's a base bare bones but with only performance in mind.

Fuck I don't even know anymore, RS help me make a decision
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Buy it!!! Pending PPI of course
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don't do it. If an e46 is on your mind, wait it out and find the perfect one.
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Four doors are great. But itb'd straight six is also good. But I've also driven an e9x m3 and that v8 rumble is very hard to beat
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I testdrove an e90 m3 SMG and it completely shat on all cars I had ever driven or owned.


It's one thing to be able to afford an m3/c63 when you're in your thirties, it's a whole 'nother thing to have a car like that in your 20s. I'd do it
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I don't think E90 M3 reliability would be better or worse than E46 M3.

If you're worried about big ticket item going(e.g. rod bearings) get an aftermarket warranty. That will limit your risk to items that cost only... a few thousand dollars. lol.
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At 75k km be prepared to pony up the big bucks when the repair bills come in. As said earlier, do a full PPI on the vehicle and see if anything needs to be done. If you have enough money to do repairs/maintenance after the fact then do it. But if you only have enough money to just purchase the car then I'd say wait for an E46 M3.

With that said the e9x m3 is a stellar vehicle and will no doubt be a blast to drive.

EDIT: If you are worried about re-sale I wouldn't do it. Ex-US vehicle with presumably >100k km at the time you sell it, will be worth peanuts.
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having just sold my m3, I can tell you that the car during my three years of ownership has been pretty reliable.

There were a handful of little issues that came up, but it was all covered under extended warranty and didn't really affect the vehicle in any way.

The biggest part of keeping an M3, is the running costs. I had apportioned a large sum of contingency funds for the regular maintenance of the vehicle which helped. Of course you could do the work yourself, or take it to a private shop, but at the time keeping the vehicle under warranty was my primary concern.

Brake Fluid Changes -$680
Front Brakes after 65-80k kms - approximately $1800 bucks
Rear brake pads after 75-85k kms- approximately $900 bucks
M3 Specific Oil- approximately $25/qt cheaper if purchased online.

and of course tires, but a set of four Michelin PSS last about 2 years, which is better than my c63 which needs a new set of rears every year approximately.

This is just a small sampling of the costs of ownership. My biggest problem with the car, was it was just too fun to drive quickly which resulted in litany of speeding tickets.
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IMO, M\\\ cars are more reliable than non M models.
Have you consider E90 M3 coupe? I think that's more valuable overtime.
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Despite it being technologically inferior to your TL, you'll find the chassis rigidity and steering feel so much more satisfying to the Acura. The manual shifter is not amazing on the E90 and I didn't enjoy tracking the car in stock form at Mission but easy fixes if you're willing to dip into aftermarket and get nicer tires. I hear the E92 is nicer to drive but have never had the chance to compare back to back so I don't know.
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I'd say get the car you want e46 m3 ... for like 20k and then 10k on mods hueuhe
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Have you consider E90 M3 coupe? I think that's more valuable overtime.
Unfortunately, those don't exist. I think you mean the E92 M3.

I personally feel a well maintained E90 M3 will be worth more than a E92 M3 in the future. E90 M3's are super rare, there's not that many out there. E92 M3 on the other hand, tons out there.
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I thought the E90 M3's came with Logic 7 sound system as standard, just like 330i/335i? If that's the case, the Logic 7 system is way better than the fully loaded TL I test drove. It made the TL's sound system sound like AM radio. If you require even more sound performance, take a look at Focal BMW OEM replacement speaker systems.

There is quite a bit of tech even in a base M3, although the tech is mostly for vehicle performance.
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So a little bit more about this car: I looked through some owners manual and stuff and found the car is from New Jersey? Has a very recent service reciept with some listings such as: owner found rough idle after cold start or something like that, replaced crank sensor and a bunch of other stuff including a new clutch. Why a 75km car needs a new clutch i have no clue.

Also found a reciept from blitzkreig about a pre-track inspection? Also replaced with track pads i believe so Im gonna assume the car has seen the track then, therefore meaning i will probably pass on this one.
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I personally feel a well maintained E90 M3 will be worth more than a E92 M3 in the future. E90 M3's are super rare, there's not that many out there. E92 M3 on the other hand, tons out there.
The E36 sedans were produced in lower numbers and a much shorter production timeframe as well but the reality is 99% of the buyers out there want coupes and the sedans are hard to sell and sit around forever. Some people ask for a price premium but most are priced well under coupes to just get them to go away. There were even fewer convertibles sold than sedans or coupes and they are worth the LEAST of the 3 bodystyles.
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Keep the TL man!

jk, good luck on finding one! I gave up on trying to find a TL Type-S and got me a Bimmer.
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if long term, go for it
if you get bored of your cars within a few years and you're thinking about resale..nope...esp with the exchange rate
post a pic, I wanna know what colour it is!
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Sort of off topic...are you selling the TL for it or are you staying with both?
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What is it with people in Acura's wanting to upgrade to bimmers all the time. lol.

I'm on the lookout as well.
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4.0 V8 M3 with manual!?! go for it!!
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Hey guys,

I love my TL to death and that's another issue if I want to give up the nav and sound system and tech that it has and go to a car where it's a base bare bones but with only performance in mind.

Fuck I don't even know anymore, RS help me make a decision

You might not miss that sound system with the m3's s65 V8

Not to mention that the E generation BMW will probably be the last of the naturally aspirated M engines
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