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yelnats8 02-22-2015 08:17 PM

How much negative camber is too much for a DD?
 
Lowered my g35 last week and got an alignment done this week. Shop was able to get the toe back within spec but my negative camber has doubled with the drop and couldn't be adjusted.

I've read that toe affects tire wear the most and should be close to 0. Can I get by okay with this much camber or will I be running into a lot of issues? My main concern is going through tires quickly.

http://i59.tinypic.com/2dufqdv.jpg

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snails 02-22-2015 08:21 PM

3 isnt much, you wont see much uneven wear either.. when you get closer to 4+ it starts to look silly IMO and around 6+ you start to see significant tread wear differences as the outside tire is hardly on the ground

GabAlmighty 02-22-2015 08:24 PM

That's a decent amount of rear camber but you'll probably live. You'll wear tires out faster, yes. Noticeable so? I think that's more dependant on your driving style/vehicle/conditions etc.

boatcaptain 02-22-2015 08:29 PM

should check your rear left tire :p

fliptuner 02-22-2015 08:31 PM

If you posted what the car is, you'd probably get options on what you can do to correct the camber.

yelnats8 02-22-2015 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boatcaptain (Post 8600235)
should check your rear left tire :p

lol ya I'm not sure why it showed 0, psi was 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by ICE BOY (Post 8600237)
If you posted what the car is, you'd probably get options on what you can do to correct the camber.

g35 and I can get a camber kit to get the camber back within spec but I prefer not to if it's not really necessary.

GabAlmighty 02-22-2015 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yelnats8 (Post 8600248)
lol ya I'm not sure why it showed 0, psi was 35



g35 and I can get a camber kit to get the camber back within spec but I prefer not to if it's not really necessary.

99% chance you'll be fine leaving it the way it is. If it starts handling funny for your style then sure get a camber kit and maybe that'll fix it. Also, fwiw, you MAY run into clearance issues if you get your camber back closer to 0 depending on your tire/rim size.

dared3vil0 02-22-2015 09:00 PM

I love those wheels... OEM Nissan wheels used to be so nice.

ed99 02-22-2015 09:04 PM

From my experience, -3 isn't so bad. Once your in the -4 and up you will notice faster tire wear. Which place did you go for this?

donjalapeno 02-22-2015 09:20 PM

no such thing as too much negative camber...

http://www.amigos-unidos.org/wp-cont...er-extrem1.jpg




jk, as others said -3 isn't too bad.

bigzz786786 02-22-2015 09:43 PM

Why not just get rear camber arms? There like 150

underscore 02-22-2015 09:47 PM

^ plus another alignment. It would've been better to just get them before and have one alignment but as others have said that amount of camber should still be reasonable enough to be okay.

Traum 02-22-2015 10:35 PM

Hmm... Why do I feel like I'm the only one that thinks the OP has too much negative camber for street use? IMO, if the car doesn't get driven aggressively, it is definitely going to notice some camber wear (on the inner shoulders of the tires).

Noran 02-22-2015 10:44 PM

Rear camber is for noobs.

Get camber arms that are more adjustable.

325isMSPORT 02-22-2015 10:57 PM

anything up to 3.5 is fine preferably your rear is -1 less than the front

Yodamaster 02-23-2015 12:48 AM

It's (functionally) pointless having camber on a daily driver, unless you're going fast enough on the street for it to make a difference in grip. For everyday use, 0 is perfect, it's what tires are designed for.

That being said, you're already at the limit for acceptable camber on the street.

cho 02-23-2015 01:03 AM

i have -3.75 in the rear, after one summer, it showed pretty severe camber wear

Traum 02-23-2015 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Yodamaster (Post 8600342)
It's (functionally) pointless having camber on a daily driver, unless you're going fast enough on the street for it to make a difference in grip. For everyday use, 0 is perfect, it's what tires are designed for.

That being said, you're already at the limit for acceptable camber on the street.

If all cars on the road are only meant to drive straight, then yes, I'd agree that 0° camber is perfect. But because cars in the real world have to both go straight and turn, I would have to say that at least having some small amount of negative camber is beneficial -- it would dramatically maximize the performance envelope of the said vehicle.

From my own experience, I'd say that for street use, having even as little as -0.5° worth of front camber makes a major difference (compared to 0° camber) to the drivibility of the car.

knight604 02-23-2015 01:39 AM

If you are going to drop your car, i say do it right and get the camber kit.

Yodamaster 02-23-2015 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8600353)
If all cars on the road are only meant to drive straight, then yes, I'd agree that 0° camber is perfect. But because cars in the real world have to both go straight and turn, I would have to say that at least having some small amount of negative camber is beneficial.

For 90% of daily driving scenarios, with 99% of the cars on the road, a minute camber adjustment doesn't really make any difference. I've driven with positive, 0, negative and irregular camber on the street, if you aren't speeding, the feeling is the same regardless. For what it's worth, 0 and -0.5 will wear about the same, but -3 is asking for trouble with wear patterns.


"But because cars in the real world have to both go straight and turn"

Clarify, camber doesn't play much of a part until you're doing a bit more than daily driving, you're dipping into the physics of steering differential.

bigzz786786 02-23-2015 09:18 AM

It looks like your on springs too. You should have gone coilovers with adjustable rear camber arms and toe bolt. I use to own a g35 coupe and slammed it too. But with coils and rear camber arms, there was enough play to get it -1.75 all around. Parts for the coupe are super cheap now adays and are a easy to install if you have slight mechanical knowlage. Do it right the first time and you save yourself a lot of headache in the future

E-SPEC 02-23-2015 10:41 AM

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This is a personal preference matter. Some people are retards. and some aren't.

This guy is running too much thats for sure.

Matsuda 02-23-2015 11:54 AM

This is too much..

https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...42&oe=5548FCF5

yelnats8 02-23-2015 12:55 PM

I calculated the cost of getting the rear camber back to spec and its about $500 (camber kit, most likely have to roll rear fenders, install, and another alignment).

I guess I'll see how my tires wear with the camber, if it's pretty minor I think I can live with it.

Off topic but has anyone taken their lowered ride to YVR? If I'm not mistaken the speed bumps there are pretty big, do you guys scrape going over them?

trollguy 02-23-2015 01:05 PM

sorry if i missed this but how much driving to you do a year? that will also play a factor in any accelerated tire wear due to camber.

and are you referring to the speed bumps through the departure area? if so, you may be okay.. i dont know how much clearance you actually have with your car post lowering.


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