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Traum · 04-10-2015, 01:34 AM

Dips on ND co-drive, NCRX?

Akinari · 04-10-2015, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ncrx

i just feel the frs is overpriced and underpowered. im not quite sure what market they're targeting.. young enthusiasts .. then its too expensive. young professionals? then the fit and finish isnt there. performance drivers? then it doesnt quite have the excitement required.

This.

The FRS/BRZ are great driver's cars, but as a DD I would not want one considering there are "better" cars out there for the price to choose from, from my perspective. Let's be honest here, $30k is not a small amount of money to a good chunk of here on RS. The only thing the FRS/BRZ does very well is in the steering department, but aside from that, pretty meh in my books after driving a few a couple times. For $30k, 370Z > FRS/BRZ all day everyday I don't even need to think twice about it, especially as a DD.

Qmx323 · 04-10-2015, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tofu1413

Having worked for Nissan and selling Nissans for a few years...

advertised at $29,998 before freight and pdi, and the car would be a car with extremely limited allocation.

+1

Out the door it'll probably run ya 36k

meme405 · 04-10-2015, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Qmx323

+1

Out the door it'll probably run ya 36k

Okay fine. But an FRS with no factory boxes checked besides navigation is $32,000 out the door, and that's with $1000 incentive.

The taxes and levies on both vehicles are largely similar. So we can stick to just looking at their MSRP's without much complaint either way.

The difference in price is for all intents and purposes $5000.

Now I will concede that due to the lack of back seats in the 370z, it is in a different more expensive insurance classification. So that's a cost to think about, as well as the fact that the 370z is going to be a complete pig on gas compared to the FRS. Also the 370z requires premium, vs the FRS can work on whatever.

Still I know which i'd rather drive...

vudooca · 04-10-2015, 07:17 AM

i think all toyota needs to do to answer back is to add a turbo package in the options. just needs a small garrett and wider wheels.

mb_ · 04-10-2015, 08:15 AM

FRS also requires premium (91 octane) due to its high compression engine

Gamed · 04-10-2015, 08:32 AM

Not worth buying 2016 370Z when 2017 will be the new generation, new styling + more HP. And FRS/BRZ does give you better driving experience as its light and agile. Definitely FRS/BRZ are better street dd car while 370z 2 seater good for the track. It really up to you what you use the car for. You really don't need 3XX HP on the street while FRS/BRZ gives you enough with much less gas consumption with cheaper maintenance and cheaper to insure.

twitchyzero · 04-10-2015, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamed

Not worth buying 2016 370Z when 2017 will be the new generation, new styling + more HP.

again,

I doubt a Z35 will be anywhere near 30k

smoothie. · 04-10-2015, 09:29 AM

how did a 370 vs frs war happen?

they're not even in the same class.

excited for this price drop, maybe other manufacturers will follow suit!

604STIG · 04-10-2015, 09:33 AM

Wow, this is huge news (for me at least) I was just in at the dealer this weekend trying to take a look at the new Z cause i'm ready to pull the trigger on one. With this news though i'll definitely wait for the 2016, hopefully it's out by September. Now I just hop that they will finally let you select black leather with the white exterior.

The_AK · 04-10-2015, 09:34 AM

Waiting for Timpo's GT-R related response

Timpo · 04-10-2015, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Traum

And one more thing -- don't forget that the ND Miata is gonna become available for sale as well. And it'll come with its 155 hp engine.

As much as I love the Miata, I really don't know how the car is gonna be able to fare against its competitors...

ND Miata will still handle great, it has Guiness World Record reputation of best selling sportscar.

Timpo · 04-10-2015, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by smoothie.

how did a 370 vs frs war happen?

they're not even in the same class.

excited for this price drop, maybe other manufacturers will follow suit!

The 370Z vs FRS war happened because of 370Z's new price.

370Z and FRS used to be in the different class due to $10,000 price difference.
All the sudden, people who can afford an FRS can afford a 370Z now.

For $29,995, the 370Z is a lot of car for the money.

Timpo · 04-10-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The_AK

Waiting for Timpo's GT-R related response

GT-R already dominates supercar class for its price point...370Z is in different class.

capt_slo · 04-10-2015, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Timpo

it's gonna hurt Ford Mustang too.

Not as much as you might think. The ecoboost has appeal to the cross-shoppers of the import vs. mustang - which is still a relatively small crowd.

Mustang sales are more at risk from the next Camaro and the rejection of the S550's "euro or fusion coupe look" from the traditional pony car crowd.

Gamed · 04-10-2015, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Timpo

The 370Z vs FRS war happened because of 370Z's new price.

370Z and FRS used to be in the different class due to $10,000 price difference.
All the sudden, people who can afford an FRS can afford a 370Z now.

For $29,995, the 370Z is a lot of car for the money.

Agree, 370Z vs FRS is purely on the prices. Even with the 10K price cut, it is still not that affordable as it is pretty much a toy track car. 2 Seater with limited truck space, not something you want on a daily bases while FRS is good for all purpose.But you'll likely to get bang for your buck if you consider Genesis Coupe for HP/Torque which FRS is lacking.

Here is a nice video on FRS vs 370Z

white rocket · 04-10-2015, 10:38 AM

The 350 and 370 respectively have done nothing for me at all ever but fuck me, that's a good deal; and I'm a sucker for a good deal. I love love love the Z32 but pricing is outta hand right now as it's moving into collectable territory. It already has I suppose. For $30k it seems like A LOT of car for the money. Use money saved to improve where it lacks?

So are we thinking that Nissan Canada has done this to increase sales but also because the Z34 is on it's way out with the Z35 being introduced next year or 2017? Trying to flog off the old style?

underscore · 04-10-2015, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamed

Agree, 370Z vs FRS is purely on the prices. Even with the 10K price cut, it is still not that affordable as it is pretty much a toy track car. 2 Seater with limited truck space, not something you want on a daily bases while FRS is good for all purpose.

I have to ask, how often do you guys put more than 2 people in your coupe? I can't remember the last time I had someone back there (while driving anyways).

Gamed · 04-10-2015, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by underscore

I have to ask, how often do you guys put more than 2 people in your coupe? I can't remember the last time I had someone back there (while driving anyways).

True, Not that often that you'll have 2 additional passengers + yourself and even FRS the rear two seats is very very uncomfortable. But for a baby seat that's definitely possible. But sometimes it is good to have extra seats even though you may not be needing it. Use it as extra cargo space if needed. On the other hand, 370z 's truck space, you have a space of 1 20 inch tires.

svelt · 04-10-2015, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by underscore

I have to ask, how often do you guys put more than 2 people in your coupe? I can't remember the last time I had someone back there (while driving anyways).

i see what you did there, but if just sitting down is hard enough for a taller dude, imagine doing anything else. still, i love back seats for the expanded storage space.

Again, as someone keenly observed this isn't a 30k car but more like a 36k price you have to pay out the door. Still, contrasting with whatever else you can pick up for 36 grand even in the lightly 1-2 year used market and it's a hell of a deal. Good work Nissan.

meme405 · 04-10-2015, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by underscore

I have to ask, how often do you guys put more than 2 people in your coupe? I can't remember the last time I had someone back there (while driving anyways).

Fuck I drive an SUV on the weekends, and a crew cab Pickup during the week, and I can count on one hand the number of days each month I need more than 2 seats.

capt_slo · 04-10-2015, 11:29 AM

I cram 2 or more passengers in my Mustang bout 4-5 times per month on average

604STIG · 04-10-2015, 11:42 AM

I have a 4 door sedan as my daily now, can't remember the last time I needed to use the rear seats for extra passengers. Have my Crew cab F150 for weekends anyways so this works for me

Akinari · 04-10-2015, 12:01 PM

Having back seats to me just equals being able to huck random shit into the rear seats while I'm sitting in the driver's seat without having to open the rear doors

Although, technically the 370Z's trunk area can be accessed from the driver's seat too unlike a roadster...

Energy · 04-10-2015, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore

I have to ask, how often do you guys put more than 2 people in your coupe? I can't remember the last time I had someone back there (while driving anyways).

Once or twice a month.