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I have to ask, how often do you guys put more than 2 people in your coupe? I can't remember the last time I had someone back there (while driving anyways).
Dude, didn't you learn anything in highschool? You need the back seats for something else other than carrying additional passengers.
No point of getting a new 2016 base model for 30K or 36K out the door. With the price cut, now all the used fully loaded Z 2009~2013 will be a lot cheaper. More so when 2016 is the last of its kinda. Either get an older Z or wait for the Z35 in 2017
Again, as someone keenly observed this isn't a 30k car but more like a 36k price you have to pay out the door. Still, contrasting with whatever else you can pick up for 36 grand even in the lightly 1-2 year used market and it's a hell of a deal. Good work Nissan.
In fairness, an FRS isn't a $30k car either.
FR-S:
$26,670
+$1,695 frt/PDI
+$125 a/c and tire levy
=$28,490
+$3,418.80 taxes =$31,908.80
370Z:
$29,998
+$1,740 frt/PDI
+$125 a/c and tire levy
=$31,863
+$3,823.56 =$35,686.56
While there is $1,000 cash back on the FR-S right now, there won't be on 2016 models so the difference on newly ordered 2016 models is only $3,777.76, not the $5-$6k difference that is being thrown around casually in this thread.
I agree they are very different cars and I highly doubt the 370Z is going to have the lovely steering feel that the FRS has, I just don't know that I would miss that steering feel much on my commute, but I would certainly appreciate another 100ft-lbs of torque.
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Also, I just got off the phone with a local dealer, 2016s are literally shipping already and can be ordered. Unfortunately there is no middle ground, you either buy a base or you buck up another $14k for a touring+sport, there is no way to get a low option 370Z with the performance equipment like they can in the US which is super disappointing!
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The MSRP for 350Z was $50,000
Since 370Z came out, they lowered it by $10,000 which made it $40,000
Now they lowered ANOTHER $10,000 and made it $30,000
So the 370Z is $20,000 cheaper than 350Z, that's quite significant.
Then I looked behind me and realized that the rear was completely useless. So, I bought an MR2.
Faster. Makes woosh noises. Equal amounts of useful space.
Plus, I've never seen a girl so amused by the fact that she was not only fucking in a car, but her head was also bobbing out of the t-tops, so it was like outdoors sex too. Two for one.
That being said, seriously considering a 370Z now. There's been a few times where I've wanted to just close my eyes and just buy one.
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All this does is lower the price of used 370z base coupes, and a little bit of the touring/sport used market. Convertible/Roadster owners really aren't affected.
Would definitely be nice to pay 30k all in for a used 2016 in a year or two :P
All this does is lower the price of used 370z base coupes, and a little bit of the touring/sport used market. Convertible/Roadster owners really aren't affected.
Would definitely be nice to pay 30k all in for a used 2016 in a year or two :P
Who cares about convertible owners anyway, the soft top 370Z is so dumb looking, especially in a city like Vancouver where you are going to have the top up like 10 months out of the year.
You're right though, now that we know you can't get the sport pack vehicle at this great price it's slightly less interesting to me.
What is interesting is the fact that used prices for these things are still going to tank, and that includes the sport models. So I am likely going to be looking around in the used market in 6-10 months.
FR-S:
$26,670
+$1,695 frt/PDI
+$125 a/c and tire levy
=$28,490
+$3,418.80 taxes =$31,908.80
370Z:
$29,998
+$1,740 frt/PDI
+$125 a/c and tire levy
=$31,863
+$3,823.56 =$35,686.56
While there is $1,000 cash back on the FR-S right now, there won't be on 2016 models so the difference on newly ordered 2016 models is only $3,777.76, not the $5-$6k difference that is being thrown around casually in this thread.
I agree they are very different cars and I highly doubt the 370Z is going to have the lovely steering feel that the FRS has, I just don't know that I would miss that steering feel much on my commute, but I would certainly appreciate another 100ft-lbs of torque.
If Scion/Subaru would release a TRD Sport package/STI model, which had either a supercharger or a small turbo, with some 255 or 275 square wheels and tires, and this had factory warranty support and costed 5-6k. Then it would make the FRS more of a competitor...
If they released a supercharged/turbod FRS/brz you can expect it to cost upwards of 40grand... I think this is one of the many reasons Toyobaru is hesitant to boost it since, at 40K, you're asking a lot of money for not that much car... Also, at 12.5:1 in the fa20, having a reliable boosted high compression boxer engine is going to be trouble
I don't know if I am the only one that misread it or if some seriously ninja shit has happened but turns out the 370Z base does not come with an LSD and the only way to get it is the $44k touring+sport package. Unfortunately I had to be at the dealership today test driving a car and working on ordering one to figure that out.
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I don't know if I am the only one that misread it or if some seriously ninja shit has happened but turns out the 370Z base does not come with an LSD and the only way to get it is the $44k touring+sport package. Unfortunately I had to be at the dealership today test driving a car and working on ordering one to figure that out.
-Mark
Since when? Source? EDIT: I mean I know you were at the dealership, but can you point me to somewhere on paper where it says that?
That LSD has been the only diff offered in the 370z for the entire run of the model.
Re-edit: Nevermind looks like american models have been like that for awhile. It was only in Canada where the LSD was always standard equipment.
If the only thing you want to add is an LSD save yourself $14k and get an aftermarket one that's piles better for $1500 and be done with it. From what little I know the OEM one isn't very good anyways.
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You're right though, now that we know you can't get the sport pack vehicle at this great price it's slightly less interesting to me.
What does the sport pack come with over the base? From what I gather even the top FRS still isn't as well equipped as the base 370.
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If the only thing you want to add is an LSD save yourself $14k and get an aftermarket one that's piles better for $1500 and be done with it. From what little I know the OEM one isn't very good anyways.
What does the sport pack come with over the base?
Leather, nav, bose, sport suspension, big brakes, 19" rays forged wheels, aero kit, syncro rev match...
off the top of my head.
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Since when? Source? EDIT: I mean I know you were at the dealership, but can you point me to somewhere on paper where it says that?
That LSD has been the only diff offered in the 370z for the entire run of the model.
Re-edit: Nevermind looks like american models have been like that for awhile. It was only in Canada where the LSD was always standard equipment.
I sat down with the salesman and we read the email from Nissan to the dealerships with the new information on 2016 pricing. It was clear that it was added when you got to Touring and above only.
While an aftermarket LSD is certainly possible, it's not legal in the autocross classing I am interested in so unfortunately it's not an option.
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Leather, nav, bose, sport suspension, big brakes, 19" rays forged wheels, aero kit, syncro rev match...
off the top of my head.
No, some of those are touring package options.
Sport pack would be the synchro rev match, LSD, Akebono brakes, 19" rays, Illuminated Z side markers, Front Chin spoiler, rear deck lid spoiler, heated mirrors.
If they would just sell us the sport package car for 4k more than the Base model like they do in the states this would be a brilliant deal.
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