It's both. WD doesn't change strategies or lines very often and, when he does, it's usually something small and way too late.

We also have a lot of passengers this year, it seems.

We have some skill and some speed, but that's it. No depth, no size, no toughness, no identity it seems anymore. JB says meat and potatoes, but I don't see any meat and potatoes on this team. We got rid of guys like Bieksa and Sestito for Dorsett and Bartkowski. Say what you will about those 2, but they did their jobs when needed. Now we have zero push back except for the occasional Dorsett ankle-biting.

The entire organization seems to have turned into a clusterfuck from the top down since 2012.

^breh its all in the tank plan dont worry! I would be seriously worried next year if they are still in shit tank mode!!! but this is what I see this summer in my crystal ball....Canucks miss playoffs ie have the perfect tank get a top 5 draft pick, they fire WD and the other shit coaching staff, find a coach and some assistant coaches that can run a decent pp, sign either lucic or ladd, sign loui erickson or someway in hell sign stamkos haha, sign a top d man or some depth ones...also drop guys like vrbata, weber, bartkowski, vey, prust, hamhuis,maybe trade burrows, trade higgins and let the rebuild begin!!!

^this is somewhat the plan i see happening but all depends on shit falling into the right place...

Sure is
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but youre contradicting yourself no ? how can you be worried if theyre in shit tank mode next year, if (and this is how i feel) they need to be in shit tank mode for the next few years while they rebuild, which you seem to want a rebuild

if we finish a mediocre team, you can bet dark days like messier era will happen again

this time will be aqualini being the messier

^ :fulloffuck:

What is there in common between now and Messier's era besides losing? There were no good prospects or anything to look forward to back then.

I'd sign Beth Bartkowski over her son any day

I feel for the Sedins. They deserve better.

I don't think WD is getting fired yet, he's in on the tank plan, roll 4 lines no matter what to get everyone ice time + experience while ensuring a loss. The only players that will truly suffer are the Sedins who lose out on personal goals.

I only can last one tank season and then I want to watch some actual compete when we still have the sedins...rebuild fast track year would be next year with all the signings haha

he will get fired at the end of the year I am hoping...not during full tank mode now which he is steering the titanic into the ice berg

Current bottom 10 in the league:

21st - Ottawa Senators - 62 pts - top 3 odds - 11.5% / 1st overall - 3.5%
22nd - Arizona Coyotes - 60 pts - top 3 odds - 16.1% / 1st overall- 5%
23rd - Montreal Canadiens - 60 pts - top 3 odds - 19.1% / 1st overall - 6%
24th - Vancouver Canucks - 56 pts - top 3 odds - 20.6% / 1st overall - 6.5%
25th - Calgary Flames - 55 pts - top 3 odds - 23.5% / 1st overall - 7.5%
26th - Buffalo Sabres - 55 pts - top 3 odds - 29% / 1st overall - 9%
27th - Winnipeg Jets - 54 pts - top 3 odds - 26.3% / 1st overall - 8.5%
28th - Columbus Blue Jackets - 53 pts - top 3 odds - 34.2% / 1st overall - 11.5%
29th - Toronto Maple Leafs - 50 pts - top 3 odds - 39% / 1st overall - 13.5%
30th - Edmonton Oilers - 50 pts - top 3 odds - 52.5% / 1st overall - 20%

Doubt he will get fired. The Canucks don't need a third head coach on the payroll.

Pretty sure that any coach that gets hired by another team has their contract with the old team null and void.

Sort of....... Indtead of paying him $2 mill a year for 4 remaining years we pay an undisclosed amount of that according to press at the time CBJ hired him... And we got their 2nd round pick. CBJ had to pay out a portion of the $8 mill owed too, so it was pretty expensive for them to hire him.

According to Bob McKenzie, Vancouver is still paying Tortorella even after being hired by Columbus.

There are no rules regarding coaches salaries. Basically, when it comes to something like this, it's whatever terms the two teams negotiate between each other.

In the case, it's just Aquaman's money.

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Fucking Aquaman needs to stop meddling and let hockey brass do what they hired him to do. His scope of knowledge is no where close to that of them

Is there concrete evidence owners are meddling right now? After Linden became president that is.

rumours, but a few of them so take it for what it is. I dont think there will ever be concrete CLEAR evidence as management will always say that ownership isn't interfering

Nothing concrete since MG's final months, but considering Aquaman was meddling in 12-13 and 13-14, it wouldn't surprise me given the abundant rumours especially from trusted media sources like Friedman.

Colorado not holding up their end of the bargain; need to score 5 over the next 40 minutes

Colorado is worse than the Canucks this game. We're up 2-0.