On the radio they've been going on all day about how Mccan was a whiner and those times where the Sedins came out saying you need to learn how to be a pro in this league were directed mainly at him and pouting over ice time/how he was being used

Honestly, that 33rd OVA pick was overrated. Percentages of a decent NHL'er at that pick is poor, ~15% chance of success. Most of the time they are career minor leaguers. This draft has a pretty big drop-off in terms of talent past the top-20 prospects. I'd rather lose the 2nd rounder and get a young d-man that's already proven to handle minutes against top-line guys.

Florida is absolutely the best spot for us to trade McCann. He'll be stuck behind Bjustad and Trochek. He's not going to be very successful as a 3rd line centre and if they try him out at wing, Florida already has great depth in that position as well.

Tryamkin is unproven though and more importantly, Gudbranson and Hutton are the same age and will progress at the same rate together. It's important that we don't have a huge gap in where players are in terms of progression.

Our best offensive centre under 30 traded. I am done until Benning is gone. Gudbranson is not top-4 quality -- what a god damn waste of assets.

If he can prove next season that he's a $6 million dman, I'm all for it. But for now, his offensive game doesn't justify that amount.

Actually draft picks 31 through 35 have a 34% chance of playing at least 100 games in the NHL. Decent odds. Especially when DimJim's best quality is prospect assessment and drafting. There is a guy named Thatcher Demko who was picked several years back at #36 overall. Not too bad of a pickup. #31 that year was Brendan Lemeiux and #33 was Ivan Barbashev.

Early 2nd round isn't guaranteed, but usually some guys who were potential 1st round picks fall to the early 2nd round and can end up being a solid player.

Florida was smart. They could see that Gudbranson isn't going to progress into a stud d-man, and why pay the guy $5+ million a year if he isn't going to crack their top 2 pairings.

He doesn't have an offensive game. Think Willie Mitchell, except slightly taller.

I'll leave this here:

http://www.tsn.ca/panthers-take-adva...trade-1.496247

"Truthfully, it’s difficult to see what Vancouver sees in this deal. If the prize is Gudbranson, well, the prize is something like a third-pairing defender. And the premium they paid – a legitimate prospect and multiple picks – is, in a word, inexplicable.

Yup read that Gudbranson is basically a younger Willie Mitchell. Not much offence, decent skater, great hitter, blocks shots, mean as shit, shut down type of guy.

there's just something about Benning trades that piss me off because its just so counter intuitive and reveals his crippling inability to orchestrate trades

like sending off Zack Kassian with a late pick for Brandon fucking Prust, sure both team lost but at least the Habs get a pick out of it. Sure, shots of that pick becoming an NHL player is low percentage but its better than a Canucks 2016 fifth round pick turning into a player which is hovering at, oh let me check my graphs, wait, never mind, zero fucking percent.

There's something unecessary about adding those picks. You can argue day in and day out that those picks have low chances of becoming NHL players but at the end the day, low chance is better than no chance. At this rate, we're stuck with another draft where, barring some sort of miracle or intellectual breakthrough by Benning, looks like we'll have exactly 3 fucking picks in the first 5 rounds. You build by the draft, no ifs and buts about it. When you're trading away assets that are on the ice already, at least recoup by gaining the ability to pluck more assets. Here's Benning, who's supposed strength is in scouting, shitting away prospects and all these picks when the prospect cupboard is just as fucking bare as a chalkboard counting exactly how many times the Campbell Trophy has been touched. For what? Fucking no names and reject pieces from other teams that are ahead of the development curve but have pretty significantly diminished potentials.

Seriously, I can't even look at that tweet with the list of Benning trades right now. The guy is a total fucking moron when it comes to trading, asset management and contracts. Which is basically what you do as a fucking GM.

the people in the media that are slagging the deal are those that rely 100% on analytics, which is still not proven to show the truth about players.

imo eye test is still the best way to tell, and the deal was worth it minus the 2nd. should of been a 3rd or cbj's 2nd

Apparently Florida wouldn't have done the deal without the 2nd.

Oilers and Leafs were also interested in Gudbranson.

Oilers supposedly offered Yakupov + 2nd but Panthers liked McCann more

Dreger - Benning 'Far From Done In Terms Of Shopping' - TSS

Dreger on Benning, not done shopping, trying to add to contend for playoff spot next year.

damn...i'm surprised they turned down Yak AND a 2nd from the oilers

really shows you that the analytics guys have quite a bit of power in FLA

:ohgodwhy:

All the other GMs would be happy to hear that... :okay:

Canucks sign another physical (albeit smaller) former Leafs prospect to a 1 year two way deal

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The new regime in Toronto stays pretty quiet about what it intends to do but I am curious to know what was offered, especially given the Oilers offer and the deal itself.

seeing as Subban is a Gillis pick, maybe he'll fetch a 2nd round at the draft :badpokerface:

Not a bad trade, still think it was too early to give up on Mccann, but Gudbranson is only 24 and has a couple more years to solidify himself as either a top 4 guy or a bottom 2.

That 2nd rounder though is a fucking knife in the back. Suck shit this year to get a reasonable draft order selection just to start trading them away.

Our defensive cupboards are full of middle tier defensemen, Watch this mother fucker jimbo grab russell. SMH

something has to be happening to sbisa. no way they role with a sbisa tryamkin pairing. that would be a disaster.

Sbisa for a 2nd round pick?
lol...don't think there are any takers with his cap hit though

Benning has been on record many times saying that he intends to carry as much dmen in the NHL roster as he can. He's got enough now without re-signing garbage like Bartkowski so i think Sbisa stays

I'm gonna stay positive and hope Gudbranson can develop into a solid 2nd pairing eating big minutes and holding his own. Season hasn't started yet and he's already under fire...

OMG, Stamkos is playing game 7. Interesting. :troll:

I was kinda mad about the 2nd round pick too... But If you stop and think about it, whatever you think of Benning, the one thing he without a doubt knows is drafting right? If he didn't think there was anything worthwhile at 33 then the pick was expendable, simple as that in my mind.

Wow, that's dramatic. Goosebumps, missing the entire playoffs with blood clots but coming in for game 7.

Hoping he makes a big impact! I'm cheering for Tampa, Garrison for the cup!