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Old 10-03-2015, 02:06 PM   #351
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I think the general issue is that people want foreigners to assimilate, they don't want to have to assimilate to the foreigners cultures.
I have yet to see a single news item claiming Muslim immigrants want to force all Canadian women to cover their faces.

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Unfortunately, many people are single-issue voters, especially in America where you see Republicans pandering to their base on issues like abortion, gay marriage, guns, Iran nukes, etc. Canada, especially under Harper, has begun using similar tactics so we see the focus shifting from broad, important issues like the economy and the environment to little issues like niqabs and terrorism. It's not some hidden agenda. It's pandering to simpletons because they aren't apathetic over single issues and will run to the polls.
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Perhaps because people associate the niqab with a culture that severely oppresses women and is outright hateful to a number of other groups. (IE: Homosexuals)

I think the general issue is that people want foreigners to assimilate, they don't want to have to assimilate to the foreigners cultures.

Does that represent a racist/facist perspective? Perhaps, but I'm not sure it's really hurting anyone to establish a position of expectations that when you immigrate to Canada, you don't just immigrate here for the safety, jobs, health care, and education.. you immigrate here for the culture and way of life.

Again, the conservative hidden agenda is lost on me, if someone could spell it out, I would appreciate it.

I almost look forward to a scenario where the cons get punted and another party gets majority, then I can hear 80% of the current anti-cons bitching and complaining about the corrupt and ineffective NDP/LIBS etc.

Hopefully I'm wrong, but there is a reason why nobody ever speaks of previous governments with any nostalgia.
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Manic! I'm not really sure I know what you are getting at lol.

Just for the record I 100% support secularism, I am in no way shape fashion or form a religious individual and I do not think christians are better people than muslims etc. Personally I think the idea of an invisible man in the sky ridiculous, but I respect peoples rights to decide for themselves if they want to believe it or not... unfortunately people who do believe seem to really feel the need to associate their beliefs with politics.

Everyone on here has probably seen some of my posts on economics/finance. My vote has nothing to do with cultural issues, it has everything to do with lower taxes and less government spending.

You can throw out the "but look at how much debt the cons have blah blah blah" but that's totally disregarding the global economic situation over the course of Mr. Harpers reign. Meanwhile people will happily vote for Trudeau knowing he has committed to overspending (which I'm fine with actually, at least he's realistic) and the NDP who plan to spend way more and run a balanced budget (which is never ever going to happen)

My belief is that it's far more likely for government to increase taxes than it is for them to decrease taxes. This is ultimately my main concern when it comes to voting.
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Manic! I'm not really sure I know what you are getting at lol.

Just for the record I 100% support secularism, I am in no way shape fashion or form a religious individual and I do not think christians are better people than muslims etc. Personally I think the idea of an invisible man in the sky ridiculous, but I respect peoples rights to decide for themselves if they want to believe it or not... unfortunately people who do believe seem to really feel the need to associate their beliefs with politics.

Everyone on here has probably seen some of my posts on economics/finance. My vote has nothing to do with cultural issues, it has everything to do with lower taxes and less government spending.

You can throw out the "but look at how much debt the cons have blah blah blah" but that's totally disregarding the global economic situation over the course of Mr. Harpers reign. Meanwhile people will happily vote for Trudeau knowing he has committed to overspending (which I'm fine with actually, at least he's realistic) and the NDP who plan to spend way more and run a balanced budget (which is never ever going to happen)

My belief is that it's far more likely for government to increase taxes than it is for them to decrease taxes. This is ultimately my main concern when it comes to voting.

It does not matter how low the taxes are if you are not making any money. And honestly do you think the government should spend 12 million on some hot line when we already have 911 and the police?
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Which tax base are we discussing? The middle classs, the wealthy, corporate, etc? There have been and will be increasea and decreases depending on which base we look at.
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I almost look forward to a scenario where the cons get punted and another party gets majority, then I can hear 80% of the current anti-cons bitching and complaining about the corrupt and ineffective NDP/LIBS etc.

Hopefully I'm wrong, but there is a reason why nobody ever speaks of previous governments with any nostalgia.
I don't really see this as being odd at all -- that is just the nature of how people behave. As a matter of fact, that is how much of the civilized world acts. We are always trying to find that elusive balance point, but given our limited capabilities -- including memory, attention span, resources, time, etc. -- we can never find or stay at that perfectly balanced point. Issues of the day comes up, and then we tip our scale one way. Only to find out later that the scale has been tipped too far down one direction, so we try to correct, and almost always end over-correcting. And then we repeat the same balancing act again.

There is a reason history repeats itself. Suffice to say, it is almost never a good thing to have someone stay in power for too long, and right now, Steve Harpy is that someone who has stayed in power for too long.

In this regard, I actually like the 2 term limit of the US presidential system a lot more. 8 years tops, and then you're out.
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Edit: Just to be clear, terrorism or not, the gov should be able to revoke the citizenship of child molesters etc. If there were people trying to immigrate to Canada that were convicted child molesters would you let them in? No fucking way I would, and if I could kick those people out, I sure as fuck would.
On the flip side though, if we actually gave terrorists and child molesters have fucking decent sentences (ie life) in some ways I'd prefer to keep them in Canada and in a Canadian prison only because then we know the asswipe is locked up. Sure it'll cost money but just write it off as doing the rest of the world a favour.

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This is exactly what Harper wants, for the idiots to be blinded by the larger issue and just see "oh terrorist gets sent out of canada...rock on!" even when you beat the facts in front of them all they see is "terrorist" the issue is larger than that

if you want to play it like that, then every fucking criminal, or person Harper doesn't like?, can be sent to some foreign country (europe, asia, africa, america, first nation reserves) and since Harpers looking to expand it to lesser crimes, not just terrorism, everyone should be concerned...stepping stones
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My mom is so close to getting her American citizenship, my ass will be dual soon so I won't care who is in power... I'll just slide south and join the NRA, start advocating that less gun control increases gun safety and protest abortion etc like the rest of my incompetent right wing buddies.

Though I do worry Harper might deport me over a speeding ticket or revoke my citizenship for failing to file my taxes on time.

Seriously though, I don't know why I keep clicking this thread hahaha

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My mom is so close to getting her American citizenship, my ass will be dual soon so I won't care who is in power... I'll just slide south and join the NRA, start advocating that less gun control increases gun safety and protest abortion etc like the rest of my incompetent right wing buddies.

Though I do worry Harper might deport me over a speeding ticket or revoke my citizenship for failing to file my taxes on time.

Seriously though, I don't know why I keep clicking this thread hahaha

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I only get the added benefit of sponsorship by a parent who is a US Citizen, I can't remember if this allows me to cut the line for green card by 1 year or 5 years, it's been a while since I chatted with an immigration lawyer.

My mom married a 'murican, she can get her citizenship anytime now, has had the green card for a long time.
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The longer this campaign goes, the more I see how Harper and the Conservatives are about old politics...playing on people's emotions and fears rather than trying to win on actual policy. I can't stand this way of thinking...talking about relatively irrelevant issues like niqabs and fear of marijuana instead of things that matter.

Really who cares what some lady wears on her driver's license? In reality it's an overblown issue that stems from a false association of the niqab with terrorism and religious fanatics. Calling marijuana "infinitely worse" than tobacco just shows how out of touch he is with science. While we don't know what the effects of marijuana are long term, it damn well hasn't killed nearly the number of people tobacco has. Legalization would bring in tax revenue lost to organized crime. The war on drugs is an expensive one based in some ridiculous idea that drugs are immoral. These aren't the fights that I want my government fighting. I want my government to be economically responsible and that's about it.

But this shit works. Especially on older people. We might see the Cons win a minority the way things are going.
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Everything about Harper and the Conservatives is old politics... It's in their damn name!

They know young people just don't bother voting. Old people and stupid people will easily put them in power.
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Another example of Harper's play to emulate American political dysfunction (yes I know it's old and Timpo'd but still relevant): Tories blasted for handbook on paralyzing Parliament | CTV News

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I'll admit I haven't looked into this issue much, but if you're allowed to cover your face for a photo ID does that not completely defeat the purpose of photo ID?
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I want to wear one when I go through the border and airport security, it's my right!

Or grocery shopping or the liquor store for that matter, how dare they descriminate against my beliefs!

Although anyone wearing one probably isn't buying liquor lol
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Or grocery shopping or the liquor store for that matter, how dare they descriminate against my beliefs!

Although anyone wearing one probably isn't buying liquor lol
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Unfortunately, many people are single-issue voters, especially in America where you see Republicans pandering to their base on issues like abortion, gay marriage, guns, Iran nukes, etc. Canada, especially under Harper, has begun using similar tactics so we see the focus shifting from broad, important issues like the economy and the environment to little issues like niqabs and terrorism. It's not some hidden agenda. It's pandering to simpletons because they aren't apathetic over single issues and will run to the polls.
Very well said Sir. They are basically the Tea Party of the North. Using Fear Mongering, and Racially Dividing the Country.... Old Stock Canadians.

This is why it is so important to Vote this time around.
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This is why it's important that everyone goes out to vote this time, especially the younger population.
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In total agreement with that. Well said.
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Just checked the votetogether.ca site for my ridding and hoilly crap!!! The con is in second by a lot in 2 different polls


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Im voting Trudeau...because he'll decriminalize marijuana.

It strikes a nerve in me that a simple issue can go on for this long.
It's inevitable that marijuana will be legalize with millennials growing up and these old farts dying.

We need to stop with old school fear mongering and start thinking progressively.
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