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View Poll Results: It's Election Day!
Liberal 226 57.65%
NDP 57 14.54%
Green 7 1.79%
Conservative 66 16.84%
Other to support fringe beliefs 2 0.51%
Spoiled/Throwaway ballot 3 0.77%
Didn't Vote (BOO) 18 4.59%
Couldn't Vote for a Legit Reason 13 3.32%
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Old 08-02-2015, 06:20 PM   #26
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I don't mind people disliking Harper, what bothers me is people disliking Harper without knowing why.
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Personally I intensely dislike mudslinging ads. Why can't adverts be focused on the positives of what you and your party are planning on doing instead of trying to cut down your opponent? Conservatives, Liberals, NDP... they're all guilty of doing it and I hate it. Don't tell me why I shouldn't vote for the other person; convince me of why you're the best candidate for the job.
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Personally I intensely dislike mudslinging ads. Why can't adverts be focused on the positives of what you and your party are planning on doing instead of trying to cut down your opponent? Conservatives, Liberals, NDP... they're all guilty of doing it and I hate it. Don't tell me why I shouldn't vote for the other person; convince me of why you're the best candidate for the job.
I agree, the problem is mudslinging works, our recent provincial election is testament to that. Dix didn't play that game, Clark did
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The conservative ads confirm that they're still stuck in old school politics: attacking the other candidates character, attacking specific policies with no solid response as to how they'd handle the situation, and trying for catchy, subliminal messaging slogans.

I vote based entirely on economics. Whoever has the best economic policy for me personally usually gets my vote.
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Personally I intensely dislike mudslinging ads. Why can't adverts be focused on the positives of what you and your party are planning on doing instead of trying to cut down your opponent? Conservatives, Liberals, NDP... they're all guilty of doing it and I hate it. Don't tell me why I shouldn't vote for the other person; convince me of why you're the best candidate for the job.
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It's been said that as voters in Canada, we tend to vote people out of office rather than into office. That said, I can't stand Harper for another term, his view on climate changes, environmental protection and especially his antics of trying to simply "buy" votes.
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People like Harper for scrapping the Long Gun Registry as they feel it infringed on personal rights and freedoms but they aren't bothered by Bill C-51 which actually infringes on personal rights and freedoms?
I don't think this is accurate.

A lot of people that I know that are conservative supporters have all spoken out against Bill C-51.
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A lot of people that I know that are conservative supporters have all spoken out against Bill C-51.
To me at least, the important question is -- are these Conservative supporters still going to vote for the Tories despite their preference against Bill C51? It's exactly the same issue as everyone that says they hate Christy Clark / BC Liberals, and then they still voted them back in for a subsequent term in office.

I have voted for the Conservatives in the past, but this time around, it is definitely going to be anyone other than the Conservatives. This is a very difficult choice because neither the Liberals nor the NDP are promising even in the most remote manner. In many ways, it is almost coming down to me voting for the part that has a higher likelihood of displacing the Conservatives in office. Currently, it seems like NDP has a much higher chance of doing that than Mr. Pretty Face.
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I vote based entirely on economics. Whoever has the best economic policy for me personally usually gets my vote.
Good luck on that. All parties so far doesn't seem have know or how to fix our economy. The only thing Harper is good at is sell the country to foreign investors, let them buy our business, companies, land, houses etc etc might as well as start selling our cities and province.

The Liberals and NDP all they know is keep giving to the low incomes, the unions, while putting the burden on the middle class or hard working individuals trying to make more money. But instead we will be tax to death.
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The conservative ads confirm that they're still stuck in old school politics: attacking the other candidates character, attacking specific policies with no solid response as to how they'd handle the situation, and trying for catchy, subliminal messaging slogans.

I vote based entirely on economics. Whoever has the best economic policy for me personally usually gets my vote.
You guys know there's slam ads on the Conservatives as well right?

It's just the way politics work
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I am willing to donate to the conservatives if they can have some variety in their ads.

I am so fucking tired of the report card to hair to budget will balance itself.
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this early election campaign is expected to cost well over $1/2 Billion for taxpayers instead of the usual 1/10th of a billion... and knowing the govt it will probably end up over $1 Billion -_-

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I'm not going to vote in the upcoming election because democracy is broken

A guy who wipes his boogers on the Skytrain handrails has the same voting power as someone far more intelligent

Pandering to anyone looking, politicians will say or do anything for a vote
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I'm not going to vote in the upcoming election because democracy is broken

A guy who wipes his boogers on the Skytrain handrails has the same voting power as someone far more intelligent

Pandering to anyone looking, politicians will say or do anything for a vote
Would you agree that our highway system is broken here in Vancouver?

I bet you still drive.

Would you agree that our heath care system is broken?

I bet you would take what ever health care you could get if your life depended on it.

Yes the political system is fucked. But we need to hold onto every ounce of democratic power we have.

We can't let the people who do vote (that are the minority) be so easily swayed by what the politicians say (lies). If you know they are lying why don't you do something about it? Like vote...
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The only thing you can do to make your own life better is to make more money. If you want to influence others and make the world better, do art. Unfortunately, people do not pay attention to art with a message, they are too busy watching banal shit fed to them by mainstream media sources. Your options to "make a difference" are extremely limited!


Fuck voting, voting is useless and used as an illusion to keep the 9-5 proles believing that they have a voice and a choice. It is all complete bullshit and in no way do you or I have any real power to change anything through a vote. Too many stupid people exist and 99.99% of all politicians do their job of lying simply to hold office and feel important.


Our society is full of retards who have no idea of the concepts of right and wrong but instead are acutely aware of popular and unpopular. This destroys people's ability to critically think, instead motivation comes from emotions which further leads to the road to hell paved with the best intentions.


I feel little loyalty to my fellow Canadians, besides, didn't we steal this land from the natives? The CBC would love me to feel white guilt.


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I have to side with multicartual, after seeing how the "average" voter voted against the HST even though it was an excellent tax system to get "revenge" on the liberals, I don't really have confidence in the average person voting, just look at the crazies posting in News article comments.

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I'm not going to vote in the upcoming election because democracy is broken

A guy who wipes his boogers on the Skytrain handrails has the same voting power as someone far more intelligent

Pandering to anyone looking, politicians will say or do anything for a vote
a guy wiping boogers in the skytrain and you (for example) are canadian citizens with equal rights...

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anyways, my first time voting and I will be UNPLEASED if harper comes back.
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You guys know there's slam ads on the Conservatives as well right?

It's just the way politics work
Provide some for this current campaign.

If you're referring to the Engage Canada ads, I wouldn't call them slam ads or attack ads. They're more stating facts than attacking the leader of the party.

There's a difference between saying "he has great hair but being PM isn't an entry level position" vs. providing facts and sources followed by an opinion.

Some ads from Engage are here:
Engage Canada's anti-Harper ad run could get cut short - Politics - CBC News
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i knew harper was full of himself when he renamed the canadian government to the harper government.
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