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View Poll Results: It's Election Day!
Liberal 226 57.65%
NDP 57 14.54%
Green 7 1.79%
Conservative 66 16.84%
Other to support fringe beliefs 2 0.51%
Spoiled/Throwaway ballot 3 0.77%
Didn't Vote (BOO) 18 4.59%
Couldn't Vote for a Legit Reason 13 3.32%
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:08 PM   #726
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So...Harper stays in Calgary?

Hmm..

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15.5 million votes and counting. Probably going to be well over 20 million, I'd imagine.
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Liberal majority, here's to hoping Trudeau doesn't fuck it up.
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omg, how can a party win with just 39% of the vote. this is so unfair! if you add up the next two parties, it's over 50%!!!111


j/k. I'm glad they got a majority -- now he can govern without any handcuffs. this is a huge benefit to fptp -- a gov't can actually get shit done. whether people agree with it or not, will be decided on the next election.

I'm happy harper is resigning -- PLEASE CONSERVATIVES DON'T FUCK IT UP BY VOTING FOR SOMEONE IN THE OLD BOYS CLUB.
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This is what Canada is about.
Something harper never understood.
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i am being 100% cynical here, but from what I gather on social media, the message was "Harper out", "anyone but Harper", etc.

So, Harper is out - but do people genuinely want Trudeau? In the context of the choices had, perhaps it was the least bad choice, but are people genuinely seeing this as the beginning of a new, positive chapter, or just "Harper out"?

edit: economically, this is a negative from the FX view. In last 24 hrs CAD has weakened against USD. Not surprising purely from Cons vs. Liberal economic policy standpoint
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i am being 100% cynical here, but from what I gather on social media, the message was "Harper out", "anyone but Harper", etc.

So, Harper is out - but do people genuinely want Trudeau? In the context of the choices had, perhaps it was the least bad choice, but are people genuinely seeing this as the beginning of a new, positive chapter, or just "Harper out"?
Do these have to be mutually exclusive?
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Do these have to be mutually exclusive?
absolutely not, but from what I see, hear, etc. it seems to be that people are far more concerned with the latter than the former.

i would always want it weighted way more heavily to the former, with the latter being icing on the cake
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And after all the "he's just not ready" ads, I'm imagining this will be PM Trudeau on his first day

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Agreed with 4444. If people were mostly concerned with the political platform and what they mean for the future of Canada, there wouldn't be the need for the social media hype train for "team lets get rid of Harper".

I am happy that a lot more people exercised their right to vote, but view this election as a dud in terms of voting based on platform and vision.
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I'll take anyone's bet on a con minority since you guys sound so sure of the outcome.

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So your bet is $100 CAD on a conservative minority win?

Just want to clear that up.

If that's the bet. I'll take you up on it.
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So you and CRS I'm in for. $200 is probably enough to wager on an election lol.

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A question off-topic - what is the actual benefit of running for/starting a fringe (yet official) political party?

There was a candidate from "the Lennnist-Marxist Party of Canada" - in New Westminster, of all places lol.

Is there some sort of "perk" that being a part of an official (and mildly hilarious) political party? There's the pirate party, the rhino party, the work-less party, etc.
Or do these people just believe so strongly in one thing that no other established party has, and they just start their own?
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omg, how can a party win with just 39% of the vote. this is so unfair! if you add up the next two parties, it's over 50%!!!111
pretty sure this has been already posted and everyone is aware of First Past The Post problems but just in case......




hopefully Liberals will change this flawed system, but seems unlikely
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A question off-topic - what is the actual benefit of running for/starting a fringe (yet official) political party?

There was a candidate from "the Lennnist-Marxist Party of Canada" - in New Westminster, of all places lol.

Is there some sort of "perk" that being a part of an official (and mildly hilarious) political party? There's the pirate party, the rhino party, the work-less party, etc.
Or do these people just believe so strongly in one thing that no other established party has, and they just start their own?
This is like asking by CiC insists on posting on this forum despite very little positive encouragement.

Perhaps it's because they have the time? Perhaps it's because they're exercising their rights and freedoms? Perhaps it's because they actually believe what they're saying?

And somewhere in between that, is what makes this country of ours great. The ability to do it for all those reasons and more.
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i am being 100% cynical here, but from what I gather on social media, the message on the right was "even if I dislike Harper, I have no other choice", "even if I am socially progressive, I have no choice but to vote with religious fundamentalists because there are no other parties offering sufficient fiscal conservatism", etc.
fixed that to show perspective.

Is the left getting what it wants with Trudeau? When you pool all the votes for the left-leaning parties, they represent the majority of voters. Even when Harper won a majority, the majority of voters were not being represented. So he may not be who the majority of voters want, but he is at least closer to what they want than Harper was.
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What a great speech by Trudeau. He just exudes charisma and confidence
That's what he has always been good at, even when he was in his early 20's. However, many criticizes that while he has a very good sense on the emotional appeal side, he lacks the raw capabilities to follow through with real, concrete, and practical actions.

In other words, people are saying he is all talk. I do not support Trudeau even though I voted Liberals this time. But for Canada's sake, I hope he will prove them wrong.

(But I seriously question whether he can / will...)
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A question off-topic - what is the actual benefit of running for/starting a fringe (yet official) political party?

There was a candidate from "the Lennnist-Marxist Party of Canada" - in New Westminster, of all places lol.

Is there some sort of "perk" that being a part of an official (and mildly hilarious) political party? There's the pirate party, the rhino party, the work-less party, etc.
Or do these people just believe so strongly in one thing that no other established party has, and they just start their own?
I wonder about the exact same thing as well. I was under the impression that to even register as a candidate, you need to post a deposit of some sort, and if you don't get enough votes, the deposit gets confiscated, so to speak.

So if you know you have zero chance of even making the minimal cut, why even bother? It's cold, hard cash we're talking about here.
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I wonder about the exact same thing as well. I was under the impression that to even register as a candidate, you need to post a deposit of some sort, and if you don't get enough votes, the deposit gets confiscated, so to speak.

So if you know you have zero chance of even making the minimal cut, why even bother? It's cold, hard cash we're talking about here.
It's not about votes.

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i didnt get to vote, but i generally wanted Canada to be better & to be honest i think harper was good but he was terrible

i hope justin can do a great job period, thats it

just curious, are then any fanboys/die heart supporters here

like a lot of my dads chinese friends are die hard liberals cuz they opened up immigration (which my dads finds it full of shit)
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I guess you could say my family is fairly for the Conservatives, but at the same time we do know a few candidates quite personally as well.

I hope Mr. Trudeau does make a positive change.
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