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Old 09-19-2015, 01:13 PM   #1
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B9 S4 Announced- Turbocharged, 354 HP, 4.7 0-60





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260 kW (354 hp), 0 to 100 km/h (0 to 62 mph) in 4.7 seconds – Audi launches the new S4* and S4 Avant* at the IAA in Frankfurt am Main. The top models from the A4 series are ahead of the competition – with intelligent lightweight design, powerful engines, and an extensive package of the latest technologies.

“At Audi, we have more than 20 years of expertise in developing our sporty S models,” says Professor Dr. Ulrich Hackenberg, Member of the Audi Board of Management for Technical Development. “From day one, our formula for success has been a combination of outstanding quattro performance, restrained design, and state of the art drive train, suspension, and infotainment technology. The new Audi S4 and S4 Avant impressively continue this sporty tradition.”

Lightweight and powerful: the 3.0 TFSI
The heart of the S models is a newly developed V6 engine with petrol direct injection and turbocharging. The 3.0 TFSI has an output of 260 kW (354 hp); its 500 Nm (368.8 lb‑ft) of torque is available across a wide range of speeds from 1,300 to 4,500 rpm. The engine outstrips its predecessor in terms of power and torque, while simultaneously offering significantly lower fuel consumption and weight.

The engine can accelerate the Audi S4 from 0 to 100 km/h (0 to 62 mph) in 4.7 seconds, and the electronic limiter kicks in at 250 km/h (155.3 mph). Despite its considerably improved performance, the V6 is extremely efficient. In the NEDC cycle, the S4 Sedan consumes less than 7.4 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers with 170 grams CO2 per kilometer (31.8 US mpg [273.6 g/mi]).

The new eight-speed tiptronic transmission is highly efficient and provides fast, comfortable and spontaneous gear changes. Whenever the driving situation allows, it switches to freewheeling to save fuel.

As on every Audi S model, the power of the 3.0 TFSI is transmitted to the road by quattro permanent all-wheel drive. During normal driving, the selflocking center differential funnels 60 percent of engine torque to the rear axle and 40 percent to the front. Depending on the operating situation, it can distribute up to 70 percent to the front axle or up to 85 percent to the rear. The wheel-selective torque control based on an intelligent software function rounds off the quattro drive train. For dynamic cornering, the wheels on the inside of the bend are slightly braked before they can slip. This makes handling more precise, agile, and stable. A sport differential available as an option improves the handling further by actively distributing the forces between the rear wheels.

Intelligent dynamics: suspension
The new Audi S4 and S4 Avant handle corners of all kinds with aplomb – whether on a racetrack or a mountain pass. For fast motorway driving, both models feature impressive straight-line stability. This performance is down to the newly developed suspension. The five-link suspension on the front and rear axle precisely separates the longitudinal and transverse forces, thus ensuring optimum handling in all driving situations. Like the electromechanical power steering, both are designed to be very lightweight. Variable speed-dependent dynamic steering is available as an option.

The standard S sport suspension is 23 millimeters (0.9 in) lower than on the basic model. The ride height is the same with the optional suspension with active damper control. Along with the engine, steering, tiptronic and sport differential, CDC dampers (CDC = continuous damping control) are included in the Audi drive select handling system which comes as standard. This enables the driver to adjust the suspension characteristics in several modes.

The standard 18 inch wheels in 5‑twin-spoke star design roll on 245/40 size tires. A 19‑inch alternative is available from quattro GmbH. Powerful, stable brakes are fitted on the large wheels.

Sporty understatement: design
The appearance of the new S4 models is subtly understated. At the front, the Singleframe grille and the accentuated horizontal lines underline the width. The bumpers and air inlets are prominently profiled. Many of the add-on parts are painted in finely graduated matt gray tones, accentuated with chrome trimming at selected points.

The exterior mirror housings in aluminum look are a visual highlight on the clear flowing side lines of the 4.74 meter long S4 (15.6 ft). The strongly profiled sill trims also give both models a striking appearance. On the tailgate, a separating edge provides targeted aerodynamics. The S‑specific rear bumper integrates a black honeycomb grille, an S‑typical diffuser clip, and the four tailpipes of the dual-branch exhaust system. Intelligent composite construction characterizes the body. This makes it exceptionally torsionally rigid, safe, and lightweight. It is the basis for the low unladen weight of the car. The sedan with quattro drive as standard tips the scales at 1,630 kilograms (3593.5 lb), the Avant at 1,675 kilograms (3692.7 lb).
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Not sure how I feel about it, might look better in person, but am excited about the 400 lb decrease in weight.
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I'm sure it's the best S4 yet, but man, it just looks really boring.
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These cars always get better and better but I have to agree, they are so incredibly boring.

IMO, the S models should be more bonkers and outwardly obvious they are not the base models with a different trim pack on them.
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looks like just another Audi sedan.
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These cars always get better and better but I have to agree, they are so incredibly boring.

IMO, the S models should be more bonkers and outwardly obvious they are not the base models with a different trim pack on them.
I agree. Back in the day I could tell an S4 from a mile away, with the stance, wheels etc. Now I honestly can't tell them apart from a normal A4.

Look at BMW: an M3 is still quite distinguishable from an average 3-series. AMG, not quite as much...

What's the deal? Wonder why car designers aren't willing to take risks anymore it seems?
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I agree. Back in the day I could tell an S4 from a mile away, with the stance, wheels etc. Now I honestly can't tell them apart from a normal A4.

Look at BMW: an M3 is still quite distinguishable from an average 3-series. AMG, not quite as much...

What's the deal? Wonder why car designers aren't willing to take risks any more it seems?
They don't take risks because the general market for these high end luxury sedans are old people with money. They buy them because they are the most expensive model not because they need the performance. They also don't want the bonkers look or feel, they want subtle.

With all the big fines being handed out (talks of an $18 billion for VW), it could cause a huge loss for an automaker, so stick with safe is what I'm seeing.
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"restrained design"

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I agree. Back in the day I could tell an S4 from a mile away, with the stance, wheels etc. Now I honestly can't tell them apart from a normal A4.

Look at BMW: an M3 is still quite distinguishable from an average 3-series. AMG, not quite as much...

What's the deal? Wonder why car designers aren't willing to take risks anymore it seems?
Only RS-models get the major exterior upgrades. S-models is pretty much only suspension and drivetrain upgrades.
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Greeeat just what we needed another car that thinks it has the right to hog the left lane.
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I agree. Back in the day I could tell an S4 from a mile away, with the stance, wheels etc. Now I honestly can't tell them apart from a normal A4.

Look at BMW: an M3 is still quite distinguishable from an average 3-series. AMG, not quite as much...

What's the deal? Wonder why car designers aren't willing to take risks anymore it seems?
y r u comparing a s4, which is just the top model of the a4 line like a 335 and c450, to a M3 which is the equivalent of of a c63, or in audi's case, RS4?

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auto only and its not even DSG anymore
its an 8 speed single clutch gearbox, so it'll still be fast shifting and no torque converter
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why do they make audis so slow.
They're generally rated lower then they should be, for example the b8 s4 was rated at 5/5.1 seconds 0-60 but actually pulled it off around 4.5/4.7?
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why do they make audis so slow.
For their high performance line up, they have Lamborghini, Ducati, Porsche, Bugatti, etc.
I don't think VW give 2 shits about Audi sedans being slow. For high end sedans, they have Bentley anyways.
Audi is kinda funny brand, their sedans are pretty much VW and R8 is Gallardo.
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One of the few luxury cars that have a stick and they stopped offering it. Which blows too because it was such a smooth transmission.

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its an 8 speed single clutch gearbox, so it'll still be fast shifting and no torque converter
Why fix what isn't broken. That S-tronic in the B8 was great
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I love all these manufacturers making crazy gas mileage claims with their turbo engines, yah sure it gets 7.4/100k if you never ever ever engage the turbo, which is pretty much impossible even in regular keeping up with traffic style driving.

B8 with manual will be a far more sought after car years from now.
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One of the few luxury cars that have a stick and they stopped offering it. Which blows too because it was such a smooth transmission.


Why fix what isn't broken. That S-tronic in the B8 was great
The S-tronic was great until your maltronic fails
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One of the few luxury cars that have a stick and they stopped offering it. Which blows too because it was such a smooth transmission.
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auto only and its not even DSG anymore
The DSG in the B8 could not handle the extra torque, so they switched for this upcoming B9.

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They're generally rated lower then they should be, for example the b8 s4 was rated at 5/5.1 seconds 0-60 but actually pulled it off around 4.5/4.7?
Or the RS5 is rated at 4.5, but is actually 3.9 (car and driver).

Or the S3 is rated at 4.8, but is actually 4.4 (road and track).
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One of the few luxury cars that have a stick and they stopped offering it. Which blows too because it was such a smooth transmission.


Why fix what isn't broken. That S-tronic in the B8 was great
a few advantages that comes to mind are, less moving parts = less wear and tear = less components to fail, oh and also how else r they gonna shave off 400lbs without ditching a clutch?

u talk like its gonna be a downgrade, did u know this same transmission is on the RS7? if its good enough for a RS7 its good enough for a S4

honestly speaking, after owning a car with a dual clutch gearbox, i would much prefer a fast shifting traditional automatic gear box. yes DCTs shift fast and is great fun... when driven hard, but when it comes to day to day stop and go traffic, it clunks and jerks pretty bad
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a few advantages that comes to mind are, less moving parts = less wear and tear = less components to fail, oh and also how else r they gonna shave off 400lbs without ditching a clutch?

u talk like its gonna be a downgrade, did u know this same transmission is on the RS7? if its good enough for a RS7 its good enough for a S4

honestly speaking, after owning a car with a dual clutch gearbox, i would much prefer a fast shifting traditional automatic gear box. yes DCTs shift fast and is great fun... when driven hard, but when it comes to day to day stop and go traffic, it clunks and jerks pretty bad
The clunking gets real annoying after 30 minutes of stop/go traffic
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I was a huge fan of the b8 s4 and looked for a while for a manual one, yea I get why they don't make it with one anymore but my main complaint with most of these performance sedans is the size of them. Why why WHY, do they need to make them bigger and bigger every single model. Soon they'll need the S3.5 to fill the gap again. This new b9 is massive!!
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i can see this growing on me the more i see it on the road. wasn't too big of a fan of the B8.5, but this does it for me.
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