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Some of you guys can can talk about how Miata is lighter and all that all day long, but 370Z has a lot more power and don't forget, it is a sportscar. If your first priority is livability, convenience and all the luxury features, go buy a BMW, Lexus, etc.
Not saying Miata is a bad car, but I think the biggest point of Miata is having fun without a lot of power and hurting your wallet.
I have always been looking at Miata as a fun and affordable sportscar.
If they are getting more expensive than the 370Z, I think it has lost it's attractiveness.
The 370z is a sport car. Yes it is...Timpo
Just that no one wants to talk about the 370z in this thread Timpo. Dont you get it?
I gotta say, IMHO, Japanese manufacturers are not getting it.
It's not just how the car feels, but also the way it looks.
The ND Miata looks dated before it even hit the market. And really there's only one single problem: head/taillights are god forbiddingly ugly. they need to go back to the drawing board, think with LED/OLED only for both head/taillight. Else it really looks like a car from the 90s (unless that's the purpose)
Audi pioneered fancy headlight design with being the first to introduce LED headlight, and it brought automobile design languages to a new dimension.
Lexus is finally getting it, and the new NX and RX has some very nice lighting design. But for Mazda to be able to sell Miata, they really need to up their game.
I truly wish Japanese manufacturers were more competitive, but Europeans or (god forbid) even Korean are really killing with design.
I gotta say, IMHO, Japanese manufacturers are not getting it.
It's not just how the car feels, but also the way it looks.
The ND Miata looks dated before it even hit the market. And really there's only one single problem: head/taillights are god forbiddingly ugly. they need to go back to the drawing board, think with LED/OLED only for both head/taillight. Else it really looks like a car from the 90s (unless that's the purpose)
Audi pioneered fancy headlight design with being the first to introduce LED headlight, and it brought automobile design languages to a new dimension.
Lexus is finally getting it, and the new NX and RX has some very nice lighting design. But for Mazda to be able to sell Miata, they really need to up their game.
I truly wish Japanese manufacturers were more competitive, but Europeans or (god forbid) even Korean are really killing with design.
You're talking about BMW, Audi and Lexus.
In my opinion, Miata is definitely in a different league. It's a lightweight sportscar.
Richard Hammond from Top Gear said "Miata was never popular because of what it had, but because of what it didn't have" so Miata should be getting rid of all the luxury features like all the other cars have. To an extent obviously.
I gotta say, IMHO, Japanese manufacturers are not getting it.
It's not just how the car feels, but also the way it looks.
The ND Miata looks dated before it even hit the market. And really there's only one single problem: head/taillights are god forbiddingly ugly. they need to go back to the drawing board, think with LED/OLED only for both head/taillight. Else it really looks like a car from the 90s (unless that's the purpose)
Audi pioneered fancy headlight design with being the first to introduce LED headlight, and it brought automobile design languages to a new dimension.
Lexus is finally getting it, and the new NX and RX has some very nice lighting design. But for Mazda to be able to sell Miata, they really need to up their game.
I truly wish Japanese manufacturers were more competitive, but Europeans or (god forbid) even Korean are really killing with design.
Miata is an affordable sports car, or supposed to be. I don't expect them to come with smart lighting. Neither do I think the design looks dated, the front/side profile is refreshing but the rear is borderline timpo material.
How much was NC's MSRP when it launched? $25K seems like the sweet spot but I don't think $30K is outrageous given how low our dollar is.
I gotta say, IMHO, Japanese manufacturers are not getting it.
It's not just how the car feels, but also the way it looks.
The ND Miata looks dated before it even hit the market. And really there's only one single problem: head/taillights are god forbiddingly ugly. they need to go back to the drawing board, think with LED/OLED only for both head/taillight. Else it really looks like a car from the 90s (unless that's the purpose)
Audi pioneered fancy headlight design with being the first to introduce LED headlight, and it brought automobile design languages to a new dimension.
Lexus is finally getting it, and the new NX and RX has some very nice lighting design. But for Mazda to be able to sell Miata, they really need to up their game.
I truly wish Japanese manufacturers were more competitive, but Europeans or (god forbid) even Korean are really killing with design.
First off you are lumping all japanese manufacturers into one category, all based on the miata?
Second off, you can't compare a BMW to mazda. Just like you can't compare the NSX to the Miata.
All the companies which you are listing are luxury divisions of other manufacturers. Mazda doesn't even have a luxury division.
You're all over the map here, and I really don't know what you are talking about, the miata is fucking ugly, the tailights are hideous, and the front squinty chopped off design makes it look stupid. But comparing it to the headlights of a brand new fully loaded 4 series BMW is beyond daft.
Also in terms of your broad statement of Euro Vs. JDM, lets look at something aside from Mercedes, BMW and Audi. For example (all 2015 vehicles):
vs.
^Please tell me how Peugeot is doing any better than Mazda.
I gotta say, IMHO, Japanese manufacturers are not getting it.
It's not just how the car feels, but also the way it looks.
The ND Miata looks dated before it even hit the market. And really there's only one single problem: head/taillights are god forbiddingly ugly. they need to go back to the drawing board, think with LED/OLED only for both head/taillight. Else it really looks like a car from the 90s (unless that's the purpose)
Audi pioneered fancy headlight design with being the first to introduce LED headlight, and it brought automobile design languages to a new dimension.
Lexus is finally getting it, and the new NX and RX has some very nice lighting design. But for Mazda to be able to sell Miata, they really need to up their game.
I truly wish Japanese manufacturers were more competitive, but Europeans or (god forbid) even Korean are really killing with design.
Lol why are you so hanged up on lights? I couldn't give less fuck about lights and I'd hate to pay extra for some played out LED strips. I'm totally happy with a simple xenon projector headlight.
The lighting technology is just a drop in the bucket. Check out Audi's matrix LED and BMW's laser light technology. Don't think any of the Japanese marque have anything like that ready for market consumption. Also, compare the new iDrive to anything Lexus/Infiniti/Acura has, they don't stand a chance in sophistication and complexity. You could almost argue complexity for complexity's sake is a moot point, but it is what it is. The Japanese can also make amazingly high tech and complex cars like LF-A, GT-R, NSX but the major point is, the Japanese do it once in a while, whereas the Germans do it consistently. In a market environment like this, do stuff well once in a while doesn't stack up. Not moving forward is the same as moving backwards.
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