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this is a great deal, everyone should grab one of these if you have the Type R. My buddy's is300 also had a watch available to purchase and those watches are worth quite a fortune now (i think like 2-3k?)
All manufacturers can act like Richmond dealerships have been for years now...
Try to ask for anything or demand anything... fuck you, someone else will walk up with a suitcase of cash...
It's pretty brutal. I know my buddy is trying to grab a GT3 in Alberta and the sales guy literally laughed at him on the phone told him if he doesn't have another GT car forget it. Yah okay sure, but what's with the arrogance... it's still customer with a 1/4 million dollars+++ he wants to spend on your product asshole. Figure something out.
They'll be the first ones crying when things dry up saying there's no more business. You never want to piss people off to the point they won't buy from you anymore just on principle.
Much like the luxury watch market, if you want to skip the wait go straight to Germany and buy it. Pretty sure you don’t need a purchase history to get that gt3. You just need a friend who speaks German and can talk efficiently with the Porsche dealer.
I’ve seen modded ones I quite like. Cho’s car and lonnngs old car are both awesome. The car is way too aggressive for stock wheels and stance and all that though imo.
I think the new one will be pretty good with some tweaks. I’m still just here for the DC2 though.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
That new wing looks like an afterthought. Yarg. Why Honda why.
It looks like an aftermarket tacked on GT wing. And I also hate the modern trend of just making the wing entirely black. At least the 10th gen, the sides were body colour, and only the middle part was black.
If you look at the first pic I posted where you see the cars from the front, the black wing is basically camouflaged into the black car behind. It's all about silhouettes. Under any dark backdrop, the wing is going to "disappear" and it'll look like the car has no wing.
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If you look at the first pic I posted where you see the cars from the front, the black wing is basically camouflaged into the black car behind. It's all about silhouettes. Under any dark backdrop, the wing is going to "disappear" and it'll look like the car has no wing.
If you look at the first pic I posted where you see the cars from the front, the black wing is basically camouflaged into the black car behind. It's all about silhouettes. Under any dark backdrop, the wing is going to "disappear" and it'll look like the car has no wing.
Under regular driving conditions, if you're following a FK8 from behind, it's pretty hard to see that it has a wing as well.
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Under regular driving conditions, if you're following a FK8 from behind, it's pretty hard to see that it has a wing as well.
I don't mind the wing being black in the middle portion as much. From the rear, it doesn't really affect the outline whether it's seen or not. It's black on black, where glass on a car usually looks darker under most conditions, esp with tint.
I can elaborate a bit more on why I hate that trend of just making things black (in a poor attempt to make things look more "sporty").
Spoiler!
It's to do with positive and negative space. When you look at an object and try to make out the outline of the shape, you're looking for positive space. The wing stands out and that vortex generator at the roof line stands out. The overall shape doesn't get "lost". Grills and vents being black is fine, because they emulate openings. If anything, those are negative spaces that help bring out the overall features of a car.
Many hot hatches are doing the black wing thing, and Veloster N is one of the worst culprits that go beyond just the wing. You look at this and it looks like the rear bumper is missing when your eyes try pick up the outline. I like to do something I call the "squint test", where I squint until my vision gets blurry. Most of the blacked out areas will lose it's "detail" and what you're left is really the outline of a car. Often when a car is cruising by, the outline is really what your eyes is going to pick up. I think this effect can also work when you just simply reduce an image to a thumbnail size. Cars like the FK8 won't really be affected because the areas that should be positive spaces aren't blacked out.
and lol, Elantra N. It's not so much that the bumper is actually that ugly... it's the fact they made the entire thing "black" so it looks like a huge hole. The Elantra N in the background is out of focus so it's a bit blurry, but holy, the front bumper doesn't look like it just has an opening in it. It looks like the entire thing is an opening.
For comparison, the mid tier Elantra N Line has a very similar bumper, but it's not all blacked out and it looks a lot better. The bumper really is basically 95% the same design, with only the difference of where they "strategically" black out or leave body matched coloured. Simply the power of colour, can make such a drastic change.
Because black things look like holes or void spaces, black should be more cautiously used from a design aspect imo... otherwise it just gives the illusion things are missing or there's holes in areas that shouldn't be.
It's basically why the new WRX looks so nasty. The whole blacked out cladding area makes the wheel well look a lot bigger than they really are, and at a weird polygonal shape like someone ghetto hacksawed the wheel arches. The whole car looks lifted because there's just way too much black surrounding the tires. Try the "squint test" on this one.
Body painted wheel arch WRX to the rescue:
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I don't mind the wing being black in the middle portion as much. From the rear, it doesn't really affect the outline whether it's seen or not. It's black on black, where glass on a car usually looks darker under most conditions, esp with tint.
I can elaborate a bit more on why I hate that trend of just making things black (in a poor attempt to make things look more "sporty").
Spoiler!
It's to do with positive and negative space. When you look at an object and try to make out the outline of the shape, you're looking for positive space. The wing stands out and that vortex generator at the roof line stands out. The overall shape doesn't get "lost". Grills and vents being black is fine, because they emulate openings. If anything, those are negative spaces that help bring out the overall features of a car.
Many hot hatches are doing the black wing thing, and Veloster N is one of the worst culprits that go beyond just the wing. You look at this and it looks like the rear bumper is missing when your eyes try pick up the outline. I like to do something I call the "squint test", where I squint until my vision gets blurry. Most of the blacked out areas will lose it's "detail" and what you're left is really the outline of a car. Often when a car is cruising by, the outline is really what your eyes is going to pick up. I think this effect can also work when you just simply reduce an image to a thumbnail size. Cars like the FK8 won't really be affected because the areas that should be positive spaces aren't blacked out.
and lol, Elantra N. It's not so much that the bumper is actually that ugly... it's the fact they made the entire thing "black" so it looks like a huge hole. The Elantra N in the background is out of focus so it's a bit blurry, but holy, the front bumper doesn't look like it just has an opening in it. It looks like the entire thing is an opening.
For comparison, the mid tier Elantra N Line has a very similar bumper, but it's not all blacked out and it looks a lot better. The bumper really is basically 95% the same design, with only the difference of where they "strategically" black out or leave body matched coloured. Simply the power of colour, can make such a drastic change.
Because black things look like holes or void spaces, black should be more cautiously used from a design aspect imo... otherwise it just gives the illusion things are missing or there's holes in areas that shouldn't be.
It's basically why the new WRX looks so nasty. The whole blacked out cladding area makes the wheel well look a lot bigger than they really are, and at a weird polygonal shape like someone ghetto hacksawed the wheel arches. The whole car looks lifted because there's just way too much black surrounding the tires. Try the "squint test" on this one.
Body painted wheel arch WRX to the rescue:
Overall agree with your analysis, except the WRX still looks like poo with painted arches
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