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Hi All, I want to get an Acura MDX or RDX or Lexus RX350 very soon and was wondering if you have anyone that you can refer me to with who provided good service when you dealt with them.
My car is too small for 2 kids right now
Any help would be recommended, thanks in advance !
If you're talking about 1st generation RDX, I would stay away from it.
I was initially in the market for one until I test drove one at a Honda dealership.
I found the acceleration and the suspension to be very choppy.
And don't expect fuel economy to be great.
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I'd say go for the RX350? The new gen is coming out and it looks very nice.
I have my salesman at Richmond Acura if you want (pm me). He's very straight forward when my company got the TLX. There was a promo from Acura and he gave us right after mentioning it to him (even made the offer better so our lease payment stay under a certain number). By contrast, Burrard Acura only offered it after going back and forth several times (they found all sort of excuse to not offer it to us).
If you're talking about 1st generation RDX, I would stay away from it.
I was initially in the market for one until I test drove one at a Honda dealership.
I found the acceleration and the suspension to be very choppy.
And don't expect fuel economy to be great.
Would agree with this my fiancé's mom has one and the ride is "sporty"
the seats aren't that comfortable as well I'm 5'11 it was hard for me to find a good comfortable seating position with out hitting my knee on the centre console.
I got my 2015 MDX last September from Lougheed Acura from Gurp. Best price and service out of all of them (went to Burrard and Richmond too). I'd say haggling was the most difficult at Burrard by far.
[Edit] I know this is the largest of the cars you're looking at but for what it's worth, I have no kids yet. However I have carried my niece around in this vehicle a ton and I think I would seriously consider a minivan when I have kids... Bring your stroller and make sure it fits in the back with the seats up.
Depending on your budget. The Rdx is much cheaper than the mdx and the Lexus.
I have the 2014 Rdx. It's for the wife and baby. I don't know how old your kids are, but after we put the baby seat in the middle, it get crammed for other passengers. The mdx has much more room.
But if it just you wife and two kids, with a tight budget the Rdx is pretty decent. Good enough for the wife anyways. But if u need more room the mdx is much roomier
if you are sticking with two kids i would stay with the RDX. my parents have the MDX and being a 7 passenger it's on the big side. parking it in richmond can be a bitch. even though you somehow manage to fit it in a parking stall dosen't necessarily mean you can open the doors
they used to have an lexus rx. they wanted to upgrade to an rx350 but were disappointed in the vehicle overall compared to the MDX and how the options were priced and packaged. also acura before this time year end they offer heavy rebates on both the MDX and RDX... i'm not sure if it's still in effect.
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2015 RDX TECH - now somewhat dated but huge rebates and deals are available on 2013-2015. smooth ride... V6 is good powerplant.. .for daily driving on mixed hwy/city expect 12.2 L/100km. small gas tank 60L ... seems to run fine on either regular or premium. the 2013-2015 don't even have LED tail lights or brakes..sheesh. terrible Bluetooth / Hands free operation...navigation cannot be utilized while vehicle is in motion. common issue on this model is bad struts ....typically replaced under warranty.
2016 RDX TECH ADVANCE - more futuristic, funky looking design on the exterior. cool ass LEDs front and rear...super nice and white jewel eye headlights which are superior to HIDs. improved navigation with 3D view rather than top down on the previous model. slightly more HP than the previous model. tons of safety tech: lane assist, blind spot monitoring, collision mitigation, lane departure
both models above have cylinder management...the RDX goes down to either 3 or 4 cylinders when not under load or highway cruising... you will get 500km to a full tank if driven with flow of traffic. the rdx is a pretty smooth ride but I wouldn't label it as sporty.
if you're just a couple with 1 or 2 kids, get the RDX.
MDX is gorgeous...but a 7 seater that size is huge...the gas tank is close to a 75L capacity...and needs premium only. of course its a lot more money...and I think a minor refresh is coming up.
I prefer the RDX simply due to styling and the drive. Much tighter and agile than the MDX due to the size difference. The interior I feel very comfortable with overall.
On the roads you definitely don't get the presence of the MDX but I also feel like I'm actually driving within my lane in the RDX. Maybe I'm just not used to driving the MDX or such a large vehicle.
I haven't driven the MDX or RDX but since I work at Lexus I've driven the RX350 and loved it!
Mind you it's been the FSport, but I just love how the stock system pumps bass, and you are given a smooth luxurious ride
No I'm not in sales either and just trying to get a sale lol.
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i own a 2013 rdx w/tech package. here is my long term owners review.
usage is 90% city. i'm getting 12.3 l/100km. i did something like 8.7 on a trip to seattle and back. the ride is good. i don't feel like i'm driving a boat but i don't feel like i'm driving a sports car either. the engine produces very good power. the power come on smooth and throughout the power band unlike the turbo predecessors. passing maneuvers are cake. transmission isn't the smoothest but i don't have a lot to compare to. my other vehicle is an f150 and i find it much smother downshifting down hills and approaching intersection but that could also be related to the mass of the vehicles. the dual clutch transmissions out there are so much smoother and faster(ford escape).
i wish the rear seats folded completely flat like in the crv. it was something i didn't think would affect much and it hasn't but on the few occasions where i'm loading something long like ikea furniture flat would be better.
the BIGGEST complaint i have about the rdx and something that has driven me nuts over the last couple years is the nav system... you can not operate the navigation system while the vehicle is moving... for example if your driving to seattle along the i5 and you decide you want to stop to get food. you feel like red robins. you have to pull over, stop and then search for red robbins or enter the address. this is the case even with a passenger in the car. so fucking annoying. now i basically bring my garmin instead of using the built in nav. i have no idea if this is still the case with new models or not but it's fucking annoying.
other then that it has been very reliable. no issues so far. seats are great. the tilt rear mirrors are nice for parking. i still enjoy driving it very much and i never felt i needed the size of a larger suv (plus i have a truck)
i don't know if this is a priority, but pay attention to what kind of awd system each brand uses. at the time my parents chose their mdx, acura's sh-awd system was one of the best at the time. i remember watching youtube videos
of side by side comparisons and acura's setup did better than the others in most cases. but that was a few years ago and things have changed so it may not apply in today's market?
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i don't know if this is a priority, but pay attention to what kind of awd system each brand uses. at the time my parents chose their mdx, acura's sh-awd system was one of the best at the time. i remember watching youtube videos https://youtu.be/FJZxVefta68 of side by side comparisons and acura's setup did better than the others in most cases. but that was a few years ago and things have changed so it may not apply in today's market?
IMO, nothing beats a Subaru in 4wd. Unfortunately in those test, tires play a huge role and if they want a non biased test, they should equip all the vehicles with the same tires.
but sadly, the tribeca underperforms as an option in this category. i'm not even sure if it's still in production.
__________________ "The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
The rx350 actually takes regular gas, so factor that in your decision.
from what little i know, the current MDX says recommended, but not required to run premium. something to do with the new 3.5L having direct injection and cylinder deactivation.
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IMO, nothing beats a Subaru in 4wd. Unfortunately in those test, tires play a huge role and if they want a non biased test, they should equip all the vehicles with the same tires.
Actually, a lot of things can beat a Subaru in 4WD. Let's break it down to shifting power from front to rear, and from left to right. We'll see in a bit why the left-right shift is extremely important.
Transferring power between left and right wheels Why is this important??
Most AWD systems have open differentials at the front and rear axles. This transmits power to through the path of least resistance - in other words, to the wheel that is already spinning.
In a worst case scenario where you're stuck, the additional axle with power won't be able to save you when there is a wheel on each axle with limited/no grip (on ice/snow/in the air).
Better systems will use the brakes to generate resistance in order to shift power to the other wheel. This reduces the torque available to actually move the car forward. In some scenarios, this means that you won't have enough torque left to get unstuck.
One thing that I've noticed is that a lot of older systems (-2000) offered locking front/rear differentials, and a lot of car based systems (2000-2010) with open differentials do not have brake based L/R transfer, as this relied on stability control.
Example: Left wheels in both front and rear axles have no grip.
Implementations Acura: Differential based system on BOTH axles. Able to transfer 100% of power to either left/right wheels.
Audi (TRANSVERSE Haldex based systems in A4+ models): Brake based system.
Audi (Longitudinal Torsen based systems in S/RS models): Electronic locking differentials [either open or 50/50 L/R]/LSD ("Sport Differential") available.
BMW xDrive: Brake based system. No LSDs except for in M models.
Mercedes: Brake based system. Subaru: Open differentials front and back. Brake based system
Subaru WRX/STI: LSD on rear axles.
Transferring power between front and rear axles Subaru (manual transmission): Viscous coupling where different front/rear axle speeds generates pressure and locks up.
Audi A3s, Volkswagens, and Volvo also use this system.
PROBLEM: Since this depends on rotational speed, tire sizes must be kept constant, making repair costs for punctures/vandalism quite high.
If the difference in pressure is too great, there would be damage. Also can't lockup.
Subaru (auto/CVT transmission):
Electronically controlled clutch engages to transfer power to the rear wheels. No center diff.
Shifts power between 60:40 and 50:50.
BMW xDrive is similar.
PROBLEM: In some systems (most notably Honda's implementation), the clutch cannot sustain prolonged or significant amounts of torque.
Acura SH-AWD There are a couple different versions, but let's look at the simplest (1st gen RDX/2nd gen MDXs, and last gen TL). The RL adds extra overdrive capability for more of a RWD feel.
2 differentials with planetary gearsets AND clutches in both front AND rear axles - the planetary gearsets reduce load on the clutches. 2015+ MDXs only have clutches in the front/rear diffs. Can shift up to 70% power to the rear axle.
PROBLEM: Limited to 50% power to the rear in some scenarios due to diff design. More expensive maintenance.
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Differential based system on BOTH axles. Able to transfer 100% of power to either left/right wheels.
