Lease returning my IS300 (2.0L turbo) for a UX250h F-Sport, picking it up on Saturday.

Time to save gas.

Anyone installing their charger Outdoor ?

in Carport ?
That's my only option for charger location.
Garage is too small to park the new Plug-In.

I quite enjoyed the UX250h when I went to test drive it. Didn't get to try the F-sport one as it wasn't available yet. Pretty quick for the city and comfortable for highway cruising.

I guess I won't ask about the hybrid question I have in mind. :okay:

Just kidding.

Long shot but was looking to see if anyone here has owned a Porsche Panamera e-hybrid and if any experiences. I had one for the weekend a number of years ago and absolutely loved it, and considering one in a year or two. Looking to buy used, not new, but yeah. It's not a Tesla so...moot point. :badpokerface:

Yeah we drove the new IS300 (detuned V6), and an RX350 F-Sport, and thought the UX250h drove significantly better and more refined than both those cars. The former two are really showing their chassis age, whereas TNGA cars all feel pretty rock solid.

Must say that the idea of a swappable battery NIO makes a lot of sense. I mean battery R&D will grow faster than your car. Imagine you can switch a lower capacity one with a higher one a few years after car ownership. I think NIO is onto something but will they ever be available in the NA market?

FYI in case you don't know. All NIO cars are designed with the same shape battery on the bottom and can be swappable (in like 5 mins, done like at a jiffy lube type of station, all automated) and batteries are also chargeable by conventional plug in means.

Apparently, Tesla thought of this but abandoned it because superchargers were more available but still, 5 mins swap for a full new battery vs. 45 mins at charging station? And now, Tesla Supercharging stations are always so full with people waiting.

^^ is it worth it to go hybrid these days? I was pricing out a Camry hybrid sport and it's around $43000 after taxes and you don't really get any gov discounts, venza is even more expensive and a Prius prime is over $40k. But basically you still have gas expenses and regular maintenance. Doesn't it just make sense to go full electric for the savings since your monthly payments will be similar. But no gas and much less in maintenance?

I had an opportunity to drive a UX250h for about a week as well, and overall, I quite like the car. The only thing I really did not like was how tiny its trunk was. Fuel consumption during that period was in the 6 - 6.5L/100km range, and to me, that was a bit disappointing for a small hybrid. But the figure seems on par with what Fuelly suggests.

With road grime and all sorts of other uncontrollable external factors, I am very skeptical that a battery change from the underside as suggested by the video would work, esp within that time frame. Simply put, it looks too sci fi to be realistic.

Yeah, sorry for being such a cynical bastard lol~

I agree that the trunk was disappointing. Makes for long haul road trips and touring a bit difficult. Sitting in the back seat as an adult is brutal, that seems to be a Lexus thing.

I can't comment on on the fuel claims, but I would imagine the overall weight of the car doesn't help with the situation.

Isn't hybrid a compromise for mileage/distance anxiety? Always ICE to fall back on.

Yes, the trunk isn't just narrow/short-ish, it's also very shallow because of the batteries underneath. Not a huge deal as we extremely rarely carry back-seat passengers and the back seats fold down anyway so no biggie. The IS wasn't known for having a big trunk among sedans either so not losing out on much.

6-6.5L/100km of 87 is much better than 12-13L/100km of 94 in the IS, I'll take whatever I can get LOL.

Backseat is pretty brutal in terms of leg room, but I didn't find it narrow or uncomfortable per se. It's actually about the same rear legroom as say, a MK7 Golf.

Nah no way. the MK7 golf has to have a bigger rear seats than the UX.

Legroom is okay on the UX - I did appreciate that. But if you are tall, game over. Started to remind me of sitting in the back of a Porsche 911. :heckno: It's not THAT bad, but still.

Secretly, I am in envy you're getting the UX. :okay: It is an overall good car, just underappreciated.

Lol I was driving a cvt corolla and getting as low as 4l per 100km on the straights. And surprised the Camry hybrid is only rated at 5l per 100km

cause you're driving that on the straights.... when they rate cars they rate it with varying speeds for more real-world results.

They are already doing it in China.

My dad just purchased a second Lexus 450h this time a 2011. It's a one owner traded in at Jim Pattison Lexus North Shore. 93kms, $21,000. My sister also has one. They like them and no issues so far.

I did hear from an RS member about a local owner who had their 450H break down at Mt Washington and had to be towed back to Victoria. Something major went wrong with the hybrid system and cost to repair was $14,000. They considered whether it was worth repairing or not.

My wife and I have considered a hybrid but we are holding out for better EV options. As tempting as hybrid is I want to cut out the majority of the maintenance costs. My wife often commutes 120km round trip so we need some decent range. For now our 13 CRV continues to run fine.

^ I'm on the same boat, ppl ask between $20000 to $30000 for used hybrid that are a few years old. And if I'm dropping that much on an used car I might as well finance a new electric. As the fuel savings and maintenance cost savings is still a few thousand a year based on how much I drive.

There are some used 2nd gen Nissan Leafs for ~ low to mid $20K or for a little more, the 2nd gen VW E Golf. I believe both of those have extended range > 200 kms.

Aren't the Nissan Leaf's prone to battery issues?

^ first gen, yes

^2nd gen, not old enough to have enough cases to know for sure

the problem like most people going for EV is that, it will be the only car in the family, and the risk of not being able to do road trips (even just maybe twice a year) is a point to consider...

now ofc, all my friends who owns teslas told me that they have done vancouver to anaheim disney land, or vancouver to banff/edmonton/calgary all the time and my fear is only an illusion lolol

It won't be the only car but the daily commuter car. Cuz the issue is I need at least 120km range a day. So older leafs isn't really an option.

Just get a rental for those couple trips. The number of people who spend a pile more than they need to on a vehicle for something they *might* do a couple of times a year is nuts.

I put down a deposit for a rav4 prime last year. Got a call today saying they have a few that came in that were not allocated yet. Non with tech package so I’ll have to wait until the next batch comes in