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Old 06-27-2023, 11:25 AM   #2726
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^ how do you like it?
Had it since March and we're happy with it. Most of the things people mention online were either sorted out with the 23 model, or have been easy enough to get used to. Infotainment is slow as everyone knows, but hasn't been the end of the world. I mostly use steering wheel controls.

It's way ahead of our '10 Suzuki Grand Vitara tech, convenience and comfort wise, so hard to complain.

I'm sure there are lots of other options that are better in this way or that, but I was sick of dealer games and waiting. Most competitors were a decent jump cost wise. We drove a rental Bolt EUV in California and it's a big step down (size wise of course as well).
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Old 06-27-2023, 01:16 PM   #2727
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Volvo, and I think therefore polestar, announced they are joining the NACS bandwagon.
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Outside the lower mainland, when you go into the Interior (even places like Kamloops) and smaller towns ... you see a lot less EV's. Maybe you all knew that but I think the infrastructure in smaller towns is just not there to support EV's. I mean here in 604, every 2 to 3 car is that potato shaped Model 3.
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We attempted to buy that one for the in-laws. $6000 "Drive Care fee", $699 "Vehicle placement", $699 doc.
PM me, we actually have the Ioniq 5 Luxury at MSRP with a 599 doc fee....
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Anyone ever driven or spoken to VW about an ID.4?
My wife has an id4. Great build quality but the software is horrid and their buttons are stupid. They capacitive touch buttons for the most part, regular ones would be much better. You get two window switches for all 4 windows and have to use a separate switch to change between controlling the front and back. Some of the buttons don't have any backlighting at night so you can't see them. Every time you get in the car there's a warning screen on the car that won't turn off unless you press a button. The list goes on but the software mostly would make me sell the car if it was mine.
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PM me, we actually have the Ioniq 5 Luxury at MSRP with a 599 doc fee....
PMd you if Jgresch doesn't take dibs
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PM me, we actually have the Ioniq 5 Luxury at MSRP with a 599 doc fee....
Is this becoming a more regular occurrence? I'd be interested if they can be purchased at that price point.
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PM me, we actually have the Ioniq 5 Luxury at MSRP with a 599 doc fee....
But you also have a pre-owned Preferred AWD LR for $66k… how can you sell a new one for MSRP?
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Old 06-28-2023, 09:49 AM   #2734
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The caveat was a 2016+ trade in required. Unfortunately they don't have a trade (they are keeping their '07 minivan as a hauler).
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PM me, we actually have the Ioniq 5 Luxury at MSRP with a 599 doc fee....
NVM, figured out that Luxury package is only on AWD.

EDIT: Was asking if it was single or dual motor
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Old 06-28-2023, 10:33 AM   #2736
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I call BS on Dark being able to sell a ioniq 5 luxury at MSRP with doc fee only.

All the other stealerships either pill on useless add ons (e.g. $1,500 paint protection package) or require trading in a 2015+ vehicle.

Just stick with Tesla.
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But that redesign is coming out for the model 3 shortly. Pretty sure that’s why they clearing out both the 3 and the Y right now (more on the 3).

If not in a rush maybe just wait and see.
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I call BS on Dark being able to sell a ioniq 5 luxury at MSRP with doc fee only.

All the other stealerships either pill on useless add ons (e.g. $1,500 paint protection package) or require trading in a 2015+ vehicle.
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The caveat was a 2016+ trade in required. Unfortunately they don't have a trade (they are keeping their '07 minivan as a hauler).
The 'catch' is 2016 trade in required, which seems more palatable than a $10k mark up, which i've also seen. One dealer said they go down the waitlist and just ask for offers over msrp without even setting a markup.. lol
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Trade-in is basically a very elongated and elaborate mark-up when you think about it Give you a much lower than market price for your used vehicle and re-sell it for a significant profit.

I get it though, there's no inventory at places for used cars. I'm also stuck myself trying to get a new car because my newest current car is a 2004 and there's no way I'm trading anything in.

It's half tempting to go find a great deal on a newish car you don't even like or have an interest in and try to buy it for close to trade-in price just to have something to trade in lol!
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Nowadays I just tell my non-car friends / family to get a Tesla over other EVs since the sales process is transparent and easy. I don't want my clueless auntie friends feeling ripped off at traditional dealers and coming back to me with grievances.
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It's half tempting to go find a great deal on a newish car you don't even like or have an interest in and try to buy it for close to trade-in price just to have something to trade in lol!
Salesperson told my friend to buy a used 2020 off the lot and when the new one arrives, trade in the 2020 because it was a long waitlist.
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Trade-in is basically a very elongated and elaborate mark-up when you think about it Give you a much lower than market price for your used vehicle and re-sell it for a significant profit.
for sure, but many people are going to trade in anyways, and the tax savings aren't insignificant. even as a 'car guy', i sold my last car (M5) to a dealer, got screwed on the price, but.. 3 kids.. no time
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I call BS on Dark being able to sell a ioniq 5 luxury at MSRP with doc fee only.

All the other stealerships either pill on useless add ons (e.g. $1,500 paint protection package) or require trading in a 2015+ vehicle.

Just stick with Tesla.
Vehicle sold, actually $180 below the Hyundai.ca pricing... The trade is decent, no where near the 10K mark up, not even half that.

The trade was an HRV, we offered the client a price that was $600 below of what Honda offered them 2 weeks ago and Honda didn't have a car to sell them, they were trying to buy back their car. So yea, told the client our trade in is on par with the rest of the dealers and yet your Ioniq 5 is actually below MSRP by $200.00

No hesistation, the whole deal was done under 10min from the write up.
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My Tesla is supposed to arrive July 3rd and now the port is expected to go on strike. FML

https://globalnews.ca/news/9798865/b...strike-notice/

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Those fuckers said they weren’t gonna strike because the US side of things reached a tentative agreement. But I guess they gonna strike anyways because fuck you, want more money.

Whatever it’ll be sorted out shortly. Either legislated back to work or we’ll concede like always and give them more money
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As expected, Polestar is going NACS. Gives me a little more incentive to consider a P2.
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Seems like a snowball effect. And the more companies that buy in, the more it will be THE standard.

If anything, consider TSLA. Even if their car sales slow down or plateau, they have the new pipeline.
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https://globalnews.ca/news/9798865/b...strike-notice/

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Get one out of inventory, there are plenty to choose from right now.

https://www.tesla.com/en_ca/inventory/new/m3
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And VW is in talks with Tesla to adopt NACS for their N.America-bound vehicles now. And I've read somewhere that SAE has now switched its stance on NACS, and will standardize NACS.

Honestly I am glad N.America is rallying around NACS. It is good for everyone to agree on a single standard, esp when that standard is the technically superior one too.
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