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Old 07-19-2023, 11:57 PM   #2826
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Some idiot posted on a Honda Odyssey FB group that they did 200 miles hands off steering using Honda lane assist and cruise control. They did the water bottle jammed into the steering wheel trick to bypass the steering wheel sensors.
People already treat driver assists as FSD.

But this is nothing new. In the 90s I knew someone that turned on cruise control on hills in the city because they thought it controlled their brakes.
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Having owned a car with Hondasensing I dont see how that's possible. His Odyssey would be like a ping pong ball between the lanes
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Welp, looks like we will see on the news soon "self driving Ford F-150 rams into a crowd of pedestrians due to faulty FSD software"

Tesla FSD is good, but it's nowhere ready for 100% reliance.
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took a ride in one of the first delivered R1S Rivians last week

4 motor. all the bells and whistles. some cool stuff, some hokey stuff. who gives a shit about a removable party speaker? it is cool that the seats go completely flat. With everything stowed and self levelling suspension - it's a pretty sweet car camper.

I've never been in anything that accelerated like that. Maybe a roller coaster. 0-100 in 3 seconds - that's top model tesla speed isn't it? (maybe not Plaid)

biggest thing - 500+ kms of range. They made it to the lake w range to spare. Up to now - this has been my biggest EV hard no. Now I just need them to scale it down to a smaller vehicle w at least the same range. The Rivian felt absolutely huge. The owners previous vehicle was a full size escalade. He says the Rivian feels massive to drive compared to that. He's not missing filling the $250.00 Escalade fuel tank.

I'm not anti EV - I'm just waiting for the vehicle that is perfect for me. At least 500kms of true range (not hypermiling), and the size, functionality of a compact car.

coles notes: Rivian fast, big range, but form factor way too big for me.
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We’re close but probably not to your specs yet. The Model 3 AWD is one of the most efficient vehicles for power consumption too which has varying range in different conditions. But it doesn’t come with “compact” pricing. And a smaller car than that with today’s battery density will be less than that too.

https://ev-database.org/car/1591/Tes...nge-Dual-Motor

Remember that when you’re road tripping you are ignoring the top 20-30% of the battery as that would take much longer to “top up” than to charge within the 5% to 60-70% side. There are enough reliable superchargers (within a supercharger corridor) to easily allow that too.

The game changer for me will be the ability to charge at 3-4C average rather than just over 1C with today’s battery chemistry. But that’ll need a much different battery tech.

Range is fine, when do I need the capacity to eat up 500km/day? Save the battery resources to get more vehicles made hybrid/PHEV/BEV and hopefully in our near future we can see batteries that are ¼ the size delivering twice the range and at least half the time to charge.

https://www.volvocars.com/en-ca/cars/ex30-electric/

Here’s “small”. And how far it can go on a 70kWh pack. It’ll be even less when you option it with performance motors I assume unless Volvo uses the same hardware and just dials them back.
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The Rimac Nevera looks slow in the video but just set the production class record at Goodwood. must be the lack of noise. Saw the car at the Peterson Museum, looks so good.


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lol, that looks slow to you? That's looks crazy quick to me.
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took a ride in one of the first delivered R1S Rivians last week

4 motor. all the bells and whistles. some cool stuff, some hokey stuff. who gives a shit about a removable party speaker? it is cool that the seats go completely flat. With everything stowed and self levelling suspension - it's a pretty sweet car camper.

I've never been in anything that accelerated like that. Maybe a roller coaster. 0-100 in 3 seconds - that's top model tesla speed isn't it? (maybe not Plaid)

biggest thing - 500+ kms of range. They made it to the lake w range to spare. Up to now - this has been my biggest EV hard no. Now I just need them to scale it down to a smaller vehicle w at least the same range. The Rivian felt absolutely huge. The owners previous vehicle was a full size escalade. He says the Rivian feels massive to drive compared to that. He's not missing filling the $250.00 Escalade fuel tank.

I'm not anti EV - I'm just waiting for the vehicle that is perfect for me. At least 500kms of true range (not hypermiling), and the size, functionality of a compact car.

coles notes: Rivian fast, big range, but form factor way too big for me.
I'd love to get a smaller form factor Rivian R1S so long as it came with the NACS. If they could get a smaller form factor R1S that is priced at or below the Model Y, i'd be all over it.
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How much is a rivian? Like $150? Apparently id buzz is like$80+ already
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lol, that looks slow to you? That's looks crazy quick to me.
I guess it's not having the noise that fcks with my mind also it's so smooth. The other cars seem faster.

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Totally agree. That Rimac seems like a non-event.

Looks neat..but it wouldn't be much less exciting if it was doing 30mph up the drive.


Also, I'm amazed at how many Rivians I've seen in the last two weeks.
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Holy fuck that McLaren Solus sounds absolutely insane

Incredible that the R32 is SO OLD now and it's less than 3 seconds off the pace of the McLaren
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took a ride in one of the first delivered R1S Rivians last week

4 motor. all the bells and whistles. some cool stuff, some hokey stuff. who gives a shit about a removable party speaker? it is cool that the seats go completely flat. With everything stowed and self levelling suspension - it's a pretty sweet car camper.

I've never been in anything that accelerated like that. Maybe a roller coaster. 0-100 in 3 seconds - that's top model tesla speed isn't it? (maybe not Plaid)

biggest thing - 500+ kms of range. They made it to the lake w range to spare. Up to now - this has been my biggest EV hard no. Now I just need them to scale it down to a smaller vehicle w at least the same range. The Rivian felt absolutely huge. The owners previous vehicle was a full size escalade. He says the Rivian feels massive to drive compared to that. He's not missing filling the $250.00 Escalade fuel tank.

I'm not anti EV - I'm just waiting for the vehicle that is perfect for me. At least 500kms of true range (not hypermiling), and the size, functionality of a compact car.

coles notes: Rivian fast, big range, but form factor way too big for me.
I'm kind of on the same boat.

not completely anti EV when it comes to daily transportation, but the offerings in the market are just so expensive (and physically big)

I'll be quite content if Mazda ever did an EV Mazda 5 sized Van and just rename it the MPV. thats all I really need in the commuter / daily driver size EV.
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I kinda want a hummer EV for lawls. This thing just looks insane to me.
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I'll be quite content if Mazda ever did an EV Mazda 5 sized Van and just rename it the MPV. thats all I really need in the commuter / daily driver size EV.
Same. Basically a Mazda version of the SWB ID.Buzz with an optional 3rd row that can be used in a pinch.

I'm getting closer and closer to joining the EV bandwagon - got an Ioniq5 booked for 3 days in a couple weeks and then when I'm in Australia I've got a BMW iX3 booked for a week (with some longer drives in there). If those go well I could see myself putting a deposit down on something sooner rather than later.
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I giggle about this thing's existence all the time, the single most hated postercar for wasteful decadence in passenger vehicles savagely hated by every environmentalist that ever lived... and here we are today it's back as a green option on fleet lists and eligible for environmental rebates
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Same. Basically a Mazda version of the SWB ID.Buzz with an optional 3rd row that can be used in a pinch.

I'm getting closer and closer to joining the EV bandwagon - got an Ioniq5 booked for 3 days in a couple weeks and then when I'm in Australia I've got a BMW iX3 booked for a week (with some longer drives in there). If those go well I could see myself putting a deposit down on something sooner rather than later.

Even if it doesn’t go well hopefully you can build off that experience and learn what to do and/or not to do. I’d be scared about non Tesla charging network but I think it would be an interesting experience. LOL I’m sure I’d figure it out along the way with some time, frustration, and acceptance to what some of the negatives are and will be for a longer time. Pretty excited to know your experience though. Everyone has a different one given different scenarios.
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Just saw this today, i didnt know Ev's has Range degradation when temps are above 100F
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Looks like it has been sold. These are going for over 150K US.


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R1S starts at $110k
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Not really upset, but kinda put off and disappointed.

I really like my Tesla Model 3, but my wife wants me to get rid of it.

Picked up the car on Feb 3rd - 7,900 KMs later... the stories about the built quality are true...

My rear trunk speaker went in May (mobile service appointment took care of it)

My front passenger TPMS just stopped working last week(this I have to bring the Tesla into a service center, booked for next Monday)

And yesterday... my rear passenger door refused to open (you can hear the latch open, the window will drop, but for the life of me, the door just wouldnt open)... a Google search shows that it is a common issue WTF? Trim will separate from the door and it will get caught in the mechanism... (so I added that into the service appointment Monday)...

Sure... everything is free and under warranty... but holy ****, I don't remember the last time any cars (new or used) gave me so many weird issues.... yes, all my cars before has been JDM, but WTF is this crap... its less than 8,000KM, that's less than our first service interval... and shit keeps on breaking.....

No way I am keeping this beyond warranty, Wife wants out now... that's too bad... I was juggling the idea of getting into the Y Performance eventually, but judging from le wife... don't think we will get another Tesla....

sorry just wanted to rant... the car is AWESOME when it works....
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Looks like it has been sold. These are going for over 150K US.


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Not sure if we can compare their transaction prices with ours - generally their used cars are priced a decent amount higher.
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