I just came back from a couple weeks of travel in some off roady places and I think I'm going to change out my Model 3 LR for either a Hybrid Land cruiser *OR* 4Runner Hybrid (when it becomes available!), those things are sick!

Just install tow hardware and bring a diesel generator trailer with you. 🫣

Honda/Acura now switching to Nacs.

Yeah they're hitting a home run with these new TNGA-F trucks. The Tundra, Taco, GX, Land Cruiser are all so great. Imagine they do a plug-in hybrid 4Runner: cheap / no fuel costs during the week, hyper long-range expeditions on the weekends. Best of all worlds.

I think I would trade for a 4r if they do PHEV.

Apparently the Wrangler 4xe is the best-selling PHEV in the US; 25% of all Wrangler sales last year were 4xe's! There's clearly a market there.

Get after it, Toyota!

In 2045

lmao, a 4Runner Prime is gonna be 100K lololol, but yes, I will want one too...

$100K and a 3 year wait

A new X5 is 100k, a RX Prime is over 100k, so it's not terrible. Anything slightly nicer or capable is hovering around 100k nowadays, inflation is a bitch. There's few outliers like the CX90

Pretty excited to see Volvo's entry to the electric minivan market as a Zeekr 009 wrapped in Volvo styling, even if it doesn't make it to North America. Kinda wish they would bring it here though...

Had to look that up.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...667599855.jpeg

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...667600021.jpeg

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...m-volvo-specs/

Looks great! Doesn't seem like it'd be much effort to restyle this with the current Volvo design language.

I'm surprised they are releasing this under lolvo and not polestar?

I saw many zeekrs in china…love how they look.
Wish they would release the 001 here

Is it a Van and cool looking while being super functional?
NA: nah, we'll pass on that

Is it a fwd SUV-egg like thing with little function?
NA: moar of that please

^ same reason there're no more manuals: damn NA market.

That thing is hot - Polestar would probably perform better in North America if they replace their current Polestar 2 with this.

https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-...jpg&width=1200

Hey cool, Kia's doing a RAV4 sized EV crossover now too. Like a mini EV9. Supposedly priced lower than the EV6.

EV5. ...is that a middle front seat?!

https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploa...-ev5-front.jpg

https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploa...v5-profile.jpg

https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploa...a-ev5-rear.jpg

https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploa...5-interior.jpg

Brand new 2023 Tesla Model 3 on the website, existing inventory.

It's now $49,490 before delivery and taxes.

After taxes and utilizing full rebates, it's $48,668.80 out the door

It's a very good price for immediate delivery

How are the insurance costs for those cars? I heard they can get up there (maybe its similar compared to other premium cars like a 3 series?)

^ From what friends who have recently bought Y's, they are not cheap, more expensive to insure than my F80 M3.

How much is it to insure a Y?

People forget that insurance costs here for the tesla is quite a bit more expensive than gas vehicles. People don't take that into consideration every year when going electric vs gas.

Oh Tesla insurance is stupid...ofc no one tell you this crap before you buy... my own fault for not doing research...

Driver factor 0.558

Exact same coverage
Exact same use
Exact same deductable 3mil, 300, 300
Exact same address
Exact same driver

literally the coverage is a carbon copy of my prius

Prius Prime = $1,810 per year (ICBC Basic + ICBC Comprehensive)
Model 3 = $5,117 per year (ICBC Basic + ICBC Comprehensive)

I literally asked the agent if he made a mistake, and he was like nope.

Joined facebook group, found out that ICBC was outrageous, changed plan literally 2 days after delivery.

Now my Tesla coverage = $2,080 (ICBC Basic + Family Insurance Comprehensive)

Still the exact same coverage, but I heard Family is an one-claim wonder, the moment you claim anything on it, you will never be able to buy the insurance at a reasonable rate again even if it is not your fault (ie hit and run, rock hitting windshielf on hwy etc etc), so driving extra careful with the Tesla lol....

If it was an actual collision (knock on wood) and not your fault, you are still good, cuz you wont be using your comprehensive....

21 Model 3 paying approx $2350 (ICBC + BCAA Comprehensive)
Includes BCAA roadside assistance, and 1 at fault claim waived.