That's hot garbage.

Absolutely

Might be different if I had the refreshed Model 3 with the LFP batteries

LFP battery perform worse in the winter ... RedFlagDeals is full of complaints from Ontario drivers

Wait a tick. I thought these new teslas all have heat pumps or something to prevent the battery from getting too cold. Does it not work ?

Model 3 got heat pump in 2021, power consumption for heating is apparently 70% lower.

Seems like when it hits -20, charging at 50kW isn't enough to keep battery warm and preconditioning becomes a lot more expensive power wise.
Ontario mans are running winter tires too which probably takes off another 50 miles if the variance between electric all season tires is already 30 miles.

https://jalopnik.com/rental-company-...due-1851081220

Interesting. They gonna replace teslas with BYDs due to high repair costs and low residuals

When I went to Australia I rented my iX3 from Sixt and the Teslas were the cheapest cars available at about $24/day (I think my iX3 worked out to $33/day or so) and there were quite a few BYDs and a lot of iX3s so Sixt definitely is deep into the EV game and not just screwing around and using this as an excuse to get out of it.

I mean this thread here keeps saying they require minimal maintenance but from that article the general repair costs must be staggering. Enough to warrant decoupling from Tesla.

The thing with Teslas are probably one good one, one bad one. I would place my guesstimates at around 30% chance of getting a really poorly made one and 50% chance any given unit will need work within the 1st year of operation. Ditto most rental ppl who get a Tesla is more likely to gun it and then brake at every light and you have high wear and tear unlike a regular commuter. Then because it's now a commercial vehicle, I wonder if Tesla gives them a hard time about getting things warrantied. They do say the fastest car in the world is a rental car, and well... this would be a fast rental car.

With a problem unit, most ppl like Dark would get it warrantied, but for a rental company warrantying a car is lost profits as the car sits while they have to pay insurance and interest on it, the accounting is just different than a regular user.

When rental cars go in for warranty work, do they got courtesy vehicles? Imagine they turned around and and rented those out lol.

It's funny to think you could walk up into a rental car lot and it's peppered with cars with "XYZ group COURTESY VEHICLE" plastered on the sides.

Have you checked your battery degradation with a third party app like Tessie?
https://i.ibb.co/JFz3m25/IMG-6740.png

Thank you, I'll look into it and go from there.

You can also try a health test from inside the car for a more accurate result.
https://youtu.be/gTf1IDI6n28?si=lP5bVuOscycMaGYs

The problem of Sixt with Tesla is price.

Their business model revolves around buying cars at fleet pricing of say 20-30% off and after renting them for a year, sell those for purchase price or somewhere near that.

But with Tesla, they don't offer fleet discounts and after the used car pricing collapse, Tesla no longer fits their business model.

Yea I doubt any other EV will be cheaper to fix, look at that $40000 kia battery

how can you infer that? it says pretty clearly in the article that REPAIRS were a big factor and not just resale.

Weird. At LAX, Hertz had a bunch of Tesla and using the corporate code, they kept on pushing me to get a Tesla and for me, it was a hard no. Ended up with a 2023 Cadillac CT4. :D

Because we've done some paperwork for a potential funding round to many car rental companies (new and old). So, I know, to an extent, how they make money.

Repair is never an issue for car rental companies. They can always choose to retire a car early should they wait for too long for repair and many of them have contracts with major autobody shops and auction houses that they get very high priorities depending on where they are operating. Some of the markets even have their own in-house repair shop or car dealership.

Up until Tesla started to drop prices at will, Sixt had no problem. They have a model to calculate their potential earnings. But with Tesla's pricing model, it's not something they can predict.

That's great insight, thank you

Another Hyundai battery incident. https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/1...uK6tOge1_Ya_WU

wow, that's pretty crazy.

Not really sold on the "Battery-as-a-service" concept though. As if we don't have enough of that crap. Yikes.

Wow. Assuming this isn't bullshit, that makes me very happy I bailed on the Ioniq.

For Hehe and other Tesla fanboys ..

Tesla to build biggest North America service centre in Vancouver

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...ntre-vancouver

Tesla's plan is for a 120,000-sq.-ft. flagship centre for vehicle servicing, new vehicle preparation, delivery operations, and a showroom

So in private conversations, so far without any proof yet so take it with a grain of salt. The quote given to ICBC was not 60k, the story doesn't add up anyways when Hyundai told him it was 30k at the dealer. The guy high centered on a median and damaged the battery and it didn't happen out of nowhere, third hand info from a tow truck driver who had to extract him.