In an EV group that I subscribe to, one of the participants had this story to share:

I'm not sure where in Canada this person is located, but it is likely that the person is in the East Coast / Atlantic Canada. I've read of stories saying that in a lot of smaller East Coast and Maritime cities, they may or may not have certified EV techs at the dealership, even though the dealerships still sell the EVs there, so this could potentially be one of the cases like that.

Tesla to build its largest service facility in North America in Vancouver

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/tesl...-raymur-avenue

I just want to clarify that it was Hyundai Boundary and not Hyundai Richmond that the client ended up getting towed to.

Apparently it ruffled enough feathers to get our legal team involved for the misleading information.

Unless they're trained in how to work on HV systems and have the proper PPE I think they were correct to not pull the shield off, HV/arc flash is no joke. The owner saying "there's nothing wrong with it" just because they could drive it is meaningless. The potential liability if someone says it's safe when it isn't could end up costing far more than the cost of just writing it off.

I understand and do not disagree with what you are saying here. But assuming the anecdote is mostly correct from the owner's perspective, the fact that Hyundai and its dealership network do not have the necessary number of certified EV techs to support their clients is a significant problem on at least multiple fronts. And one of the potential outcome is exactly what has been described on at least 2 - 3 occasions -- instead of having a qualified tech to inspect and properly diagnose the issue, they just invoked the nuclear option of "let's replace the battery". This in turn leads to having a nearly brand new car scrapped because the nuclear option cost is just too costly. If it could be properly diagnosed to be a $5k repair, or even $10k repair, a lot of money and resources would have been saved.

motormouth interviewed the guy
vid of invoice quote by dealer at 2:47


inb4 boundary bought the write off to resell for max profit :troll::troll: Kappa Kappa

Is that something any manufacturer even offers/is that possible with how these batteries are made? It sounds more like the problem is that the battery is considered to be a single piece and has to be replaced as a complete unit.

Legal against the other dealer, or the individual, or the news agency? And legal for your own dealer?

Kind of getting juicy lol

Probably not legal action against a party. More likely legal team to do damage control with any future correspondence.

I'm guessing OpenRoad's doing damage control because the news article identifies Richmond (OpenRoad) as the dealership when the battery quote from MotorMouth video actually shows Hyundai Boundary (no longer part of OpenRoad).

wtf. Why?

Small driving sample

So far based on my driving my base model y, if I were to give it 80% usage, it can go 300km which is miles better than my 3, this is with the climate control on full automatic, heated seats, and heated steering wheel.

Hopefully I'll get a better picture when I go out for longer drives.

6 year old asked "Are we there yet?" 1 too many fucking times

Just heard that polestar is having 0.9% lease and 1.9% finance? :ahwow: bad times are here

Yeah part of the problem is that EVs haven't been out long enough and at sufficient scale that there are enough capable techs to go around. You have to really know what you're doing to get inside the black box. I think only recently has BCIT begun offering an EV specific program.

But yeah can totally get into the pack and methodically rebuild whatever part has failed, just like you can rebuild an ICE motor as needed. You don't have to just throw out the whole thing.

Good overview here (scroll down a bit):
https://grubermotors.com/services/mo...y-pack-repair/

someone on another board was asking if 0.9% financing on a new miata is gonna get cheaper

car sales in generally are just adjusting to pre-shortage normalcy?

like homes they stalled pretty hard in late 2019 iirc

New EV company based in Northern BC. They will be selling hybrid conversion kits for semi's and pickup trucks. A CAT diesel generator combined with batteries and an electric axle.

What automakers are offering the best APR right now on leases (ICE specifically)?

I've been looking at a few Mazdas and they're sitting around 4.5%.

Subaru has pretty decent lease rates on the BRZ (3.99%) for 24 months if you can find one in stock. The Miata at 4.7% isn't too shabby either.

BMW has lease rates as low as 2.49% on the iX, but that's not a cheap car to begin with.
https://www.bmw.ca/en/ssl/SpecialOffers.html

Most of the best APR rates will be from automakers / models that are not popular.

If you're looking to lease, maybe consider someone trying to offload their lease transfer?

A friend of mine has worked in a few startups that tried this. His conclusion is that it's waste of time.

It's simply not cost effective and their only clients were running large fleets with worn out engines. Even then, it would have been cheaper for them to buy new hybrids, but politically it was a good move.

The main issue they faced was essentially having to rewrite all the safety programs and everything else the ECU controlled. Really not worth it.

I also had a discussion with him recently on using an ICE engine to run as a generator in the car instead of the wheels. Interestingly enough he had a presentation that he wrote for one of the large Chinese firms showing how it was more efficient to drive the wheels then charge a system that drives the wheels. In all scenarios the conversion losses from kinetic to chemical and back to kinetic made it less efficient.

My understanding is its for older trucks from the 70's and 80's.

nah this is just Mazda sales and marketshare declining year over year even though they had availability while other brands have shortages.
They need to subsidize finance rates to move units.

People who still buy cars drive a fair bit of mileage (i.e. suburb US) and need to carry things (i.e. space).
Space hybrid is basically a must at this point ... neither of which Mazda has.

Mazda on the other hand are selling to city people who still drive, have good taste and want a car (think Austin, Philly, SF, etc)
...not only is this market declining but they also don't offer the right features.

If I were Mazda product planning (got offered a job for Nissan product planning), I would....
1) pull a Volvo and gas mild hybrid EVERY car for marketing purpose and add 360 cam in lower model
2) Prominent product placement with Bose in each tier 2 location's business district with outdoor gear in the trunk.
3) Now that they use TFS, offer discounted franchise fees for Toyota dealer owners (Mazda dealer network is SO thin)

https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/mazda-us-sales-figures/
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/mazda-...sales-figures/

I thought Mazda was doing ok, with all their cx SUVs , their upscale interiors and going turbo AWD.

What happened to that in wheel electric motor thing that they showed in the type r.

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/s...ound%7C875:492

Yeah hurry up and die so I don’t see any more of that damn soul red crystal color (then I can take off my ratrolla wrap)