Electric and Hybrid Car Thread

[headhunt3r]

The CEL that's been trying to blink at you.

[Badhobz]

https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tes...ging-and-more/

Cyber truck range lower than advertised. Otherwise pretty legit according to this early adopter

Some little issues like screen black outs, truck bed problems, etc

[JDMDreams]

What

Insurance costs for the vehicle were said to be reasonable at US$465 per month for two drivers with clean records

[EvoFire]

That's well over $5k a year for insurance wtf

[noclue]

ICBC right now for a model X is $5k+, wonder what the cybertruck will be at

[TypeRNammer]

Originally Posted by noclue

ICBC right now for a model X is $5k+, wonder what the cybertruck will be at

That's with full discount, collision and comprehensive?

[Gerbs]

Originally Posted by noclue

ICBC right now for a model X is $5k+, wonder what the cybertruck will be at

wtf, is that why they're used for $50K!

[bcrdukes]

Think of all the money you save on gas

[GLOW]

wow, how much is insurance for a long range model Y?

[TypeRNammer]

Originally Posted by GLOW

wow, how much is insurance for a long range model Y?

I have a base RWD model y, it's $275 a month for insurance

East Vancouver
2 million liability
500 collision
300 comprehensive
Pleasure use only

[Badhobz]

^jesus christ thats a lot of money. that snot even 300/300 and its pleasure use!!!

save on gas. raped on insurance.

[dark0821]

Just dont do ICBC

Model 3 RWD
for work over 15KM
3 million 3rd party
300 collison
300 comprehensive

$171 monthly

For reference, it is within $10 of my prius prime, but Prius Prime is full on ICBC

ICBC basic
Family insurance everything else

I was also quoted over $3k at the Tesla dealer when 3rd party is with ICBC

[Badhobz]

so the old man told me what went wrong with the model Y

the temp was so low that the 120v wasnt charging the actual battery so it basically ran out of juice. All the electricity being charged was basically used to keep the battery warm since he parked it outside. Thats why the range was so horrible and thats what ultimately left him stranded.

[Great68]

Oh man, so it uses more than 1500W just to run the battery heater?

[JDMDreams]

Sounds like boomer doing Boomer things

[Traum]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

so the old man told me what went wrong with the model Y

the temp was so low that the 120v wasnt charging the actual battery so it basically ran out of juice. All the electricity being charged was basically used to keep the battery warm since he parked it outside. Thats why the range was so horrible and thats what ultimately left him stranded.

This happens quite a bit in frigid temperatures, esp if the car is parked outdoors. At those really low temperatures like the recent round of artic air blast that much of Western Canada has seen, L1 charging can barely keep up with keeping the battery warm.

In those cases, people tend to recommend the EV owner to seek out an L3 charger before the car completely runs out of juice, and charge the battery up.

Or if you have L2 charging at home, it wouldn't be a problem, but charging will be a bit slower.

[Badhobz]

I saw this at costco yesterday. Whats the point of buying a charger like this vs say the manufacture charger from tesla or whatever?
This seems even more expensive than the universal charger from tesla

[Great68]

Calling these Level 2 devices "Chargers" is a misnomer. The actual charging circuitry is in the car, these things are just contactors with a bit of smarts for connection handshaking.

The only real external charger is DC Fast Charge, where the output is connected directly to the car's batteries, bypassing the car's internal charger.

I don't think there's any real difference amongst the brands other than maybe features like wifi, scheduling, etc.

Here's a detailed video on the subject:

YouTube

[jcmaz]

Ease of installation is a huge factor.

[Hehe]

Calling it LVL2 is ok... it was meant to be for anything greater than 220v@20amp.

The problem with level 3 is that very few has the needed power for that. The best you can do with 1ph is around 25kwh (200v@160amp IIRC). There are couple of them around. I've used one in Hope. For anything beyond 25kwh, you need 3ph with 600v.

Not to mention DC chargers are super expensive. We looked into it to put them in our commercial properties. And I think even for 1ph, it's nearly 100k after everything is said and done.

It'd only make sense if you are in a high traffic location and you put multiple of them to spread out some of the major fixed costs.

[Great68]

[GLOW]

Originally Posted by TypeRNammer

I have a base RWD model y, it's $275 a month for insurance

East Vancouver
2 million liability
500 collision
300 comprehensive
Pleasure use only

$3300/year?! dayum...
something i'll need to consider if i'm ever in the market for one. i go thru icbc too

[Hondaracer]

Who can even fix the CT if you bang it up?

Is it just a matter of replacing an entire panel? I doubt you can re-work stainless

[Badhobz]

^maytag

[TypeRNammer]

Originally Posted by dark0821

Just dont do ICBC

Model 3 RWD
for work over 15KM
3 million 3rd party
300 collison
300 comprehensive

$171 monthly

For reference, it is within $10 of my prius prime, but Prius Prime is full on ICBC

ICBC basic
Family insurance everything else

I was also quoted over $3k at the Tesla dealer when 3rd party is with ICBC

My 3 is currently $230 a month with ICBC

East Vancouver
2 million liability
1000 collision
300 comprehensive
To and from work more than 15km