^ You cant buy out a lease at Tesla, if you went with lease, you have no buy out option to return the vehicle at the end of your lease.


Honestly its not the dealers at all, Toyota and Honda are not intentionally withholding Corolla and Civic stock and not sell them, trust in saying that from the GM to the sales, if we had units available, we would sell them.

It's just they make more profit from the same car down south, hence the weird scarcity issue.

For as long as I started working at Hyundai, we never had Elantra of any trim in stock, the moment we see "incoming" units that are leaving port in Korea, they get gobbled up right away.

If you purchase, you get 5k instead of 9k ... so 27.5k Model Y

No Lease buyouts
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so 27.5k model Y if you buy it instead of 23.5k if you lease it

Apparently Lexus is out of 2024 ux already, and it's selling 2025 models :pokerface:

this do be the Dark0281 phenomenon - there's 1500 on dealer lots in US, they'll eventually allocate some north of border if they start piling up

The UX is hard to get in the US. They sell very fast in California alone.

yeah the gas prices in cali are whack - the RAV4 Hybrid/Prime sits on dealer lots in the North East while they still have markup in CA

I have a feeling more and more leases will be like this once we pivot to EVs only.

You will rent a car in perpetuity.

Wouldn't people just buy cars out-of-state and drive them back?

Lots of states follow Cali's emission requirements.

Had a few friends ship Primes to WA/CA from Northeast dealers

Yea, was gonna say, its the same country, not importing or anything, plus vehicle is brand new, so I assume the process is just slower/tedious but also very straight forward?

so what happens to the lease car once you give it back to Telsa? do they sell it as used?

I know the courtesy cars that Tesla's loan out are former leased cars.

There was one courtesy car I had, it was a brand new Model 3 that was unsold with 500km it

My friend drove the Hyundai and not me but from the seat of my pants it was much more impressive and visceral than my Tesla model 3 performance. The sounds and simulated shifts and gauges were lots of fun. The 0 to 60 acceleration seemed pretty similar to my car but there was much more drama with the Hyundai.

I thought the interior was much nicer in my Hyundai than my spartan Tesla. My friend also has a 2023 Corvette and he said the Hyundai was just as fun to drive as his Corvette :)

over 440 miles on a single charge and you can haul items 10 feet long with the seats and the back folded. Pretty nice.

@radeonboy

The Globe and Mail has an article on your current Volvo - Is the Volvo V60 Polestar Engineered the perfect car for enthusiasts? (Warning - possibly paywalled)

Couldn't get into the actual article, but was able to read a Google cached version.

Author raises some valid points regarding driving feel, suspension comfort, and slow charging. Steering is numb and suspension is harsh over uneven pavement, but I wasn't expecting good steering feel and Volvo's aren't known for their suspension calibration.

I'm thoroughly enjoying the fuel economy though. With nightly electric top-up for 30-40km of daily EV range, I managed to squeeze out 1,850km out of my last tank of gas.

I think the Silverado EV's range is more of a bragging right than anything else.

Too much of thoughts were going into that vehicle from the perspective of an ICE vehicle driver.

It uses a battery pack almost 60% bigger than the Cybertruck to achieve 25% more mileage. And even if you disregard the efficiency perspective, it's crazy to think what it'd take to charge 200kwh battery pack.

At a full 48amp@230v on a 60amp breaker, you get 11kw per hour of charging, it'd take over 12hrs to charge from 10%-80%. And a whopping 18hrs from 0-100% (actually longer than that as the last few percent would take forever). This is under the assumption that one has enough room on their breaker to accommodate a 60amp breaker.

Using a NEMA 14-50, which provides up to 7kw/h... just by going from 10%-80% would take 20hrs+.

People coming from the ICE would get this truck and say hey... I get 440miles on a charge. Only to realize that unless their truck is always charging, there's no way to get anywhere near those mileage.

They need to understand that there is the law of diminishing return. Yes, you can always just bolt on more batteries to get extra mileage. But it gets to a point where the extra mileage comes at the cost of everything else (weight, efficiency, $$$... etc)

Aren't those GM evs like $250k that's why no one buys them, even a Escalade is like $170k according to the one I saw at the auto show and it still has shitty manual seat adjustments for the second row and the so called Captain seats look like jump seats. Where's the massage, recline and foot rest?

Suppose I'm an upper middle class dude towing my fishing boat to the dock that's like 100 miles away, any extra range on the weekend helps

low 200 mile range truck ngmi, while 400 mile range truck lets u turn on AC and still make that round trip

I have talked to a number of truck owners about EV's and they all talk about range. A lot of them love camping in the bush and towing things.

like man, i'm a 'car guy' who's pretty open to new tech ... and I don't want to be thinking about charging and calculating range with heat and winter tire for whistler trips

Get a Tesla, super charger got you covered