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Tesla: 20-40c/kwh
City of Vancouver wants 26c/minute at 62kW, about 26c/kw
BC Hydro: 35c/kwh
Petro Canada wants 50c/minute at 50kW, about 50c/kw
Journie station: 65c/kwh
So for local public stations, 30c/kw at 5.6km/kw puts you at $5/100km, or like 2.7L/100km... amazing.
Even for highway trips 4.6km/kw at a more expensive charger it's still like 6L/100km
Yeah I have a model Y and I’ll never use it for road trips. Dont care about superchargers when you have to proactively plan your charges or cant go to rural areas. I rented a diesel suburban and on the highway I got 7L/100km at 100km/h.
Good news: EV road trip was fine, Electrify America seems to be working really reliably
Bad news: WTF on a EV6 at 75-85mph, this is more expensive to run than a 330i and almost M340i expensive
Really bad news: girlfriend was mad that chargers weren't near any nice restaurants or cute places. Finding a reasonable charger is really hard.
Trip: Cape Cod to NYC
For sake of comparison, 89/91 is $4.2ish per gallon.
IMO reasonable comparison for the power and comfort.
Charge 0: 100%, 305 miles stated range
Charge 1: 62.5kW via ChargePoint, $6.32 for 23kWh over 24 minutes at .28/kwh
124.5 miles, 3.5mi/kw, equivalent 82mpg or 2.9l/100km City driving and cheap charging is where EVs really shine
Charge 2: 30kWh on 125kWh shared charger, Free for 2.5kWh
A 125kWh charger gives 80kWh to the first car to arrive and 30kWH to me?
Abandoned charge.
Charge 3: up to 235kW via Electrify America, $11.32 for 20kWh over 13 minutes at .56/kWh
125.1 mi, 3mi/kWh
Charge 4: 80-110kW via Revel, $26 for 46kWh over 30 minutes at .49/kWh
101mi, 2.9mi/kWh, equivalent 26mpg
330i RWD got 42mpg highway on Car and Driver 200mile 75mph test
330i xDrive got 36mpg
M340i AWD is rated for 33mpg Overall cost: 35mpg or 6.7l/100km.
It's great that EVs are road trippable but they're defs more citi/suburb cars than road trippers
Avis should've just given me the Toyota Crown (42 mpg rated)/Prius (56 mpg rated) I asked for.
I tell ppl that some of those chargers, what you see is not what you get. That charge 2 exemplifies that. Various YT reviewers have also said chargers are always broken. And then the Richmond Center and Hope charger lineups... Yeah no thanks not with kids in the car.
Now they need to start solving the emerging problem of crackheads cutting all the charging station cables for copper.... can't leave anything even remotely nice just sitting around anymore without someone wanting to wreck it.
Yeah I have a model Y and I’ll never use it for road trips. Dont care about superchargers when you have to proactively plan your charges or cant go to rural areas. I rented a diesel suburban and on the highway I got 7L/100km at 100km/h.
Diesel Wrangler and F150 were discontinued because of how problematic they were.
GM's V8s keep blowing their valvetrains so the diesel might be the choice.
Occasional regen / cooling system glitches seem pretty mild compared to 5.3/6.2 problems.
I think is more the cost of fast charging that blew my mind.
60 cents per kw is a lot
60c/kWh seems really high, almost double what i had paid on my last road trip. is this because you didn't get an Electrify America Pass+? or because you converted to CAD? or both?
My friend's townhouse has a SWTCH charging station installed on his underground parking stall - is it essentially just a company that sets up the charging infrastructure for the strata and charges the user for using it?
60c/kWh seems really high, almost double what i had paid on my last road trip. is this because you didn't get an Electrify America Pass+? or because you converted to CAD? or both?
Yeah, stated charging rate is .59-.63 USD in NY/MA/RI.
Pass+ would've been $7 to reduce charging cost to .44-.47/kWh
1) this has a 16.5 gallon gas tank, most Toyota hybrids have a smaller one (10-11 gallons)
2) China uses the domestic CLTC range estimate, which prioritizes slow speed, start-stop city traffic, which is more prevalent in China. It leads to inflated numbers for EVs and hybrid vehicles vs. ICE because those cars are very efficient in that kind of use thanks to brake regen, while being much less so on the highway like the EPA tests at.
2100km CLTC on a PHEV/BEV is more like 1400KM or so on EPA combined.
3) If you take the Corolla Hybrid's combined fuel economy and multiply by 16.5 gallons, it already does 1400KM. Passat diesel did like 1300km back in 2015.
^not really... there's a couple chinese tests involving mixed hwy speed (averaging 90km/h) and stop and go traffic, also driving from low elevation to higher elevation location, car even did 2409km in one test...you can say BYD paid them, but once the cars hit the street, we shall see their real range is, I doubt it will be far from what they claim, BYD is the biggest EV automaker in the world for a reason.
Even if you give corolla hybrid or the passat diesel the same size gas tank, their ranges will still be lower than this BYD at least from what they claim. hopefully real world test proves it.
And all of that for under $15k USD, that is a no brainer price in China or in NA, but we know they won't be allowed here
^not really... there's a couple chinese tests involving mixed hwy speed (averaging 90km/h) and stop and go traffic, also driving from low elevation to higher elevation location, car even did 2409km in one test...you can say BYD paid them, but once the cars hit the street, we shall see their real range is, I doubt it will be far from what they claim, BYD is the biggest EV automaker in the world for a reason.
Even if you give corolla hybrid or the passat diesel the same size gas tank, their ranges will still be lower than this BYD at least from what they claim. hopefully real world test proves it.
And all of that for under $15k USD, that is a no brainer price in China or in NA, but we know they won't be allowed here
To be fair, the 46% thermal efficiency is a hell of an achievement and BYD makes some of the best batteries.
I wonder how much effort they’ve put into other parts of the car like crash structures. My TAs at school worked on the Cadillac CT6 and saved a 100+ lbs out of the rear crash structure
To be fair, the 46% thermal efficiency is a hell of an achievement and BYD makes some of the best batteries.
I wonder how much effort they’ve put into other parts of the car like crash structures. My TAs at school worked on the Cadillac CT6 and saved a 100+ lbs out of the rear crash structure
Typically Chinese cars have not performed well in Euro or NA crash tests, I wonder too about the new BYD model, no results yet online as far as I can tell. I don't have high hopes
Typically Chinese cars have not performed well in Euro or NA crash tests, I wonder too about the new BYD model, no results yet online as far as I can tell. I don't have high hopes
The Toyota Nimh batteries are ancient but full rebuilds are only 3k .. wonder what the BYD rebuild cost is.
Looking at BYD blade battery, individual cells are replaceable which is really good.
Toyota made a really big deal about hitting 40/41% thermal efficiency on their Dynamic Force motors. If BYD really did hit 46%, that's insane.
Crash structure wise ... that stuff all adds weight
Typically Chinese cars have not performed well in Euro or NA crash tests, I wonder too about the new BYD model, no results yet online as far as I can tell. I don't have high hopes
You can watch the Euro NCAP ratings here for a number of Chinese cars. I haven't watched them all but they don't perform notably worse than their same-class competitors?
It's pretty wild looking in person, big electric toaster box on wheels.
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It's pretty wild looking in person, big electric toaster box on wheels.
I believe this is one of the VW dealership owner's personal car. From what I know, the car is supposedly imported from Italy and it's the only one in NA. I'm not sure of the lengths he had to go through to get it passed for BC roads, considering its a new car not available in NA.
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