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Old 10-26-2024, 12:21 PM   #5226
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https://waymo.com/blog/2024/10/introducing-emma/

turns out i was wrong - Waymo published a paper for their investigation into vision only E2E self driving.

Feels like a more future state thing, I think they will keep running radar/lidar while they train/improve Waymo driver.

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Anyone looking to buy a new Tesla, check the fine print carefully.

I was browsing around and notice the destination and doc fee is up to $2500, it was previously $1880
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Tesla has lost a lot of steam considering they no longer have the full $9K rebate.

But the Model 2 supposedly is coming next year?
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2 is dead, used Model 3 is already 15-20k (US) and Equinox is 25 new.
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I randomly found myself looking at eSprinters and learned that MB offers a rainbow of colors straight from the factory. Commercial vans was not the category I expected to see this level of color selection.


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I randomly found myself looking at eSprinters and learned that MB offers a rainbow of colors straight from the factory. Commercial vans was not the category I expected to see this level of color selection.

Tried doing a Canadian build, north of $110,000 before taxes
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This the first one I've seen that I think could make it in North America; charges fast, non-LFP batt, good power and space
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Rented an EV6 again - I no longer think it's that easy to recommend.

For most people....
Trip planner/nav is godawful but a necessary evil for preconditioning.
Girlfriend couldn't figure out how to activate adaptive cruise.
App is terrible, doesn't even tell you the charging rate/time to 80%

For me...
Power is better than I remember - I actually thought I had 400hp but was actually in 225hp RWD.
1 pedal driving a lot smoother than Tesla.
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Buy a Toyota they said, its reliable they said...

Anyways, my old prime ownership experience has been flawless. But 7 months into my ownerhsip... and...

So it was dead yesterday, jump start didn't work, put it on the trickle charger all night, this morning nothing..

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Where are you finding a 230kw charging station? I thought most don't top out over 100kw.
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Where are you finding a 230kw charging station? I thought most don't top out over 100kw.
All Tesla V3/V4 chargers are 250kw+

There are a few 350kw CCS chargers around among Electrify Canada/Esso/CanTire chargers, and most new ones should have at least one stall capable of that but whether or not they are working/will work is another topic.
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Where are you finding a 230kw charging station? I thought most don't top out over 100kw.
In Vancouver, BC Hydro at North Surrey Sport Center has 180kW at reasonable price.

Electrify Canada has a few heading east that VW/Kia/Hyundai get free access to. On The Run / Shell Recharge theoretically support 200kW but they seem unreliable and expensive.

For me, my default stations are Electrify America 350kW.
Also tried a Magic Dock Tesla station, Pre 2025 EV6/Ioniq top out 100kw.

I have no clue how Tesla folks deal with average 100kw and 35 minutes from 10-80%.
Ioniqs are ripping 171kW average and 20 minutes to 80 and I think that's slow.
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This chart is the closest thing I can get for range added in 10 minutes....

https://outofspecstudios.com/10-challenge

I'd rather them start at 25% state of charge ... I don't think ppl enjoy rolling in to chargers at 0 or 10% lol.

https://outofspecstudios.com/charging
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In Vancouver, BC Hydro at North Surrey Sport Center has 180kW at reasonable price.

Electrify Canada has a few heading east that VW/Kia/Hyundai get free access to. On The Run / Shell Recharge theoretically support 200kW but they seem unreliable and expensive.

For me, my default stations are Electrify America 350kW.
Also tried a Magic Dock Tesla station, Pre 2025 EV6/Ioniq top out 100kw.

I have no clue how Tesla folks deal with average 100kw and 35 minutes from 10-80%.
Ioniqs are ripping 171kW average and 20 minutes to 80 and I think that's slow.
Not sure where you get the 100kw average. My Plaid maintains 200kw+ if I go in below 30% and maintain that speed until 50% and moves gradually down from there but I don't think I've ever been below 100kw even all the way to 80%. Fastest was around 270kw from 10-30%. Even my Model 3 SR+ that's only capable of 150kw peak never spent more than 25min at a charger except this once I needed to charge all the way to 95% to make it safely to the next charger out in BC interior with 10% left in the winter.

CT, I have yet to charge it with a DC charger... but from all the reports, it's even better at maintaining high-speed charging. I believe it recently broke the record by pumping at 405kw at a 600kw charger. Tesla's new V4 cabinet would be able to push 500kw for CT when it comes next year.
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All Tesla V3/V4 chargers are 250kw+

There are a few 350kw CCS chargers around among Electrify Canada/Esso/CanTire chargers, and most new ones should have at least one stall capable of that but whether or not they are working/will work is another topic.
The new crop of 800V EVs charges slower on supercharger V3/V3 stalls in V4 cabinets available today.

Cybertruck pulls 250 instead of 330.
BUT it tapers at like 15% so no real loss.

Silverado pulls 180kW instead of 360.
Taycan pulls 150kw instead of 250.
H/K pulls 100/135 instead of 250.
Lucid pulls 50 instead of 300.

All 3 of these are still charging above the 400V power limit at 80%, so it's a really fat L.
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Where are you finding a 230kw charging station? I thought most don't top out over 100kw.
The Shell at Marine & Boundary was steadily charging my R1T at 225 kW, only limited by my truck throttling the power from hitting battery thermal limits. So there's at least that in Vancouver.
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Not sure where you get the 100kw average. My Plaid maintains 200kw+ if I go in below 30% and maintain that speed until 50% and moves gradually down from there but I don't think I've ever been below 100kw even all the way to 80%. Fastest was around 270kw from 10-30%. Even my Model 3 SR+ that's only capable of 150kw peak never spent more than 25min at a charger except this once I needed to charge all the way to 95% to make it safely to the next charger out in BC interior with 10% left in the winter.

CT, I have yet to charge it with a DC charger... but from all the reports, it's even better at maintaining high-speed charging. I believe it recently broke the record by pumping at 405kw at a 600kw charger. Tesla's new V4 cabinet would be able to push 500kw for CT when it comes next year.
Tesla likes to advertise peak power but the real opportunity is in sustained power.
It's possible that the Plaid got an OTA update that improves power.
From 10-80% that match my experience, each model has a 100%+ opportunity to catch their competitor (Ioniq 5 and 6/Taycan/Silverado).

Porsche actually says even with this crazy charging, it's still very conservative and batteries are exceeding all longevity targets at 400k kms.
I will always take fast charging over efficiency (Lucid) because it's less susceptible to weather, speed, tires, etc.

Was looking at the M3 LR AWD 10-80%: 95.0 kW (matches my exp with pre and post refresh)
https://evkx.net/models/tesla/model_...chargingcurve/

and MY LR AWD: 99.1 kW vs Ioniq 5: 187kW (drove and charged both, matches my exp)
https://evkx.net/models/tesla/model_...chargingcurve/
https://evkx.net/models/hyundai/ioni...chargingcurve/

Model S Plaid: 129kW vs Taycan 4S at 260kW
https://evkx.net/models/tesla/model_...chargingcurve/
https://evkx.net/models/porsche/tayc...chargingcurve/

CyberTruck on 800V Electrify America chargers, 10-80% is 86kWh, 40 minutes and 129kW average
Silverado is 10-80% is 160kWh, 34 minutes and 260kW average
National gave me a Silverado 4WT and this charge curve is for real.



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