Good to know since I'm not too far from it. We got a Q4 e-tron recently. I was wanting to check it out today since it's advertised as 175kW. Turns out I got there 30 seconds after a kia did, and the second charger was out of order.

Ended up at the Chevron on imperial. Charged at 98kW.

You'll see 125kW tops between 10-40% and like 60kW from 65-80ish.
If you're on a 100kW charger and haven't preconditioned, the limitation will generally be on the Q4's side.

I'd be searching for the cheapest 100kW fast charger if you need one (generally Tesla within Metro Van, BC Hydro outside of it)
https://evkx.net/models/audi/q4_e-tr...chargingcurve/

Congrats!! Did you get a good deal? :D

We've got the Q4 55 so the charge profile tops out at 175kW. I don't think Audi's can use the Tesla supercharger till next year? Plus I'd have to get a NACS adapter.

Ahh yes the 55 does charge faster.

NACS adapter is mostly for interior BC road trips (lots more superchargers) or way cheaper charging (25c/kwh vs 50-60 at Electrify America)

https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/20/...ctric-suv-laas

Hyundai Ioniq 9 was just revealed

In before $50k scratched batteries. :troll: so is it still bad to always fast charge the battery?

Nah the risk is more age and running the battery really low and really high

they rly brought the hearse vibes back with this one

https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=-oaQ2aT0

I prefer the EV9's design language over the Ioniq 9 - AstulzerRZD's reference is where my mind went as well :lol

Speaking of the EV9, KIA just announced the EV9 GT.

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/vx...exterieur.webp

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6...9-gt-revealed/

I wonder what is going on at Hyundai/Kia; they're usually really on point with customer need.
So far their EVs are "here's a super awesome battery and style, figure out the rest"

Still waiting for a software update to make the Kia/Hyundai trip planner usable.
FFS even Ford has battery / range / lane selection for hands free autodrive integrated with Google Maps and Carplay.

EV6 lane keeping is also super ping pong-y/jerky even compared to MB EQB which is last gen.
App is also unusable, doesn't give charge rate/time to 80%.

NooOOOoooOOO I am biased... but maybe not? I actually like the Ioniq 9 better lolol

Dark, wdu think are the top objections towards EVs
and how would u say the hybrid / EV buyer differ in needs/wants/thinking?

Do people ask about charging speeds / how they can find chargers / road trips or is that just me lol

I thought typical Hyundai buyer just cares about 0% financing and qualifying for 96 month loans :pokerface::lawl:

LMAO also curious how Canadian Hyundai buyers compare.

We used to have a Veracruz

At lease for me personally.

Hybrids buyers = always the 1st car or the only car in the family.

EV buyers = always the 2nd or 3rd car in the family with established home charging

Super rarely EV buyers ask for road trips or charging speed.
- Road trips they always say they have some 3 row gas/hybrid SUV at home
- Charging speed they only care about if a level 2 charger can charge the car to full or 80% overnight


Hyundai buyers in general
- younger people (who doesnt have the stigma about Hyundai being below the JDM counterparts)
- value VS feature, we are in the prime spot right behind Toyota in the placement at the mall, people get the full "Toyota Value or lack there of" treatment before walking into Hyundai
- and they might walk over to Honda later before doubling back to Hyundai cuz "Honda Value is even worse than Toyota hahaha
- we do get out done by Nissan and Mitsu though, but in terms of the general younger generation mindset it is Toyota > Honda > Hyundai/Mazda (in the same boat) > Nissan > Mitsubishi

Of course we also get lots of people from our parents generation. And honestly just applies to Chinese only, they think that Hyundai has to be $15K cheaper than Toyota or else why even look at the Hyundai.

Caucasians/Middle East/Indian/South Asian has no problem thinking Hyundai is up there on par or better than the competition.

But the industry as a whole is going to shits, hahaha or maybe I joined during the good time and now it is over. Now its a race to the bottom and see who is willing to sell below cost or worse~

I see.

I wonder when we will see the crazy EV leases for Hyundai come to Canada.

I feel if ur competition is RAV4 Hybrid / Plug in or Sienna, EV is still cheaper by $15-20/100km.

I doubt we'll see those crazy US leases up here since our allocations are much tighter compared to the US. The closest I'm seeing right now are Equinox leases.

Anyone aware how much Lightning leases are going for right now?

My Canadian Lightning lease was $8-900 for a XLT, I think the flash was around there during employee pricing in like August. No clue what the US leases are…

Truck game’s a bit diff cuz we were paying $1300 in gas on the 5.0.

If you’re looking for a lightning, make sure you get X plan right now.
GM supplier pricing’s a bit harder to get but I know a guy in interior BC selling Silverado EVs under MRSP.

838 taxes in for a Lightning XLT rn, 1065 for a Flash.
Silverado's ~1250-1350 for an LT extended range (not max range).

Flash/Silverados qualify for $5k incentive still:
https://tc.canada.ca/en/road-transpo...gible-vehicles

I have a feeling EV inventory is going to spike and good discounts are gonna happen when trump gets rid of the $7500 credit in the US.

Yes and no, there will be better discounts, but I doubt dealers can absorb the $7500 rebate.

At least with my limited knowledge, unless you are luxury (ie. BMW, Merc, Audi or Porsche)

I don't think the "standard tier" dealers (ie. Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Ford, Hyundai) are making $7500 per unit when selling cars.

Case in point, my dealers Hyundai Ioniq 5
- we have a huge amount of inventory
- we have our biggest discount ever on these cars
- still technically more expensive VS you buying at full price back in May when we still have the $4,000 rebate
- our invoice pricing from factory (ie our cost) dont even have $4,000 of gross


So we can be "giving away" Ioniq 5s making $0, and it will still be more expensive VS when the Ioniq 5 had the full $4,000 BC rebate before rule changed in June

Longer term, given the macroeconomic conditions, wouldn't it mean that going forwards manufacturers will allocate proportionally more vehicles to Canada over the US?

Serious question - I just haven't been following the car industry again until lately.

A lot of the manufacturers are building factories in the US to take advantage of the $7500 tax credit but now trump said he’s gonna get rid of it which will affect the viability of that business model.

Either they introduce more manufacturer rebates to compensate for that or slow down EV production

Logically that makes sense.

I'm not in the industry and don't follow its economics closely, but if I have to guess it's probably a combination of our weaker purchasing power, exchange rate, and US market being more lucrative still despite our demand being stronger per capita.

Something like the RAV4 Primes are fairly easy to get in the US while they're dripping inventory into the Canadian market while buyers fight for them at the dealer level.