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Badhobz 01-05-2025 07:20 PM
Yah I am but he’s a shitty shitty dad. Still my dad though. But he’s trash…. Still My dad ….. but still trash.

radeonboy 01-05-2025 08:34 PM
Woah those headlights are mint! Also love that pearly beige color. Cool to see one in this condition around still.

red kryptonite 01-05-2025 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9160142)

TLDR: don’t buy geezers hybrids or EVs. They’ll call you asking stupid question and it’ll drive you insane
this is why i choose the rolla cross for my parents. keep shit simple.

lowkey, this happened to me once when i first got the tundra. BUT your dad probably had the car for awhile now, shouldn't he be familiar with the hybrid system.

Badhobz 01-06-2025 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by radeonboy (Post 9160148)
Woah those headlights are mint! Also love that pearly beige color. Cool to see one in this condition around still.
I’m a pretty good fleet manager. The only car that looks sort of bad is my Lexus Camry. That’s cuz I leave it outside and before it was spy balloons daily (this is death!!!) so it’s got the usual outside car issues

But otherwise yah, I bought him this 2008 RX and it now has 200,000kms on it. Hasn’t missed a beat in all these years. It’s the old school Lexus that they don’t build anymore.

It even has decent quality plastic covers underneath the engine bay to protect the underbody. Not sure who’s off-roading these RXs but hey it’s there. They used to not skimp on such things. My wife’s 2018 RX doesn’t have these covers .

bcrdukes 01-06-2025 05:55 AM
Ironic how it "died" at Costco. Just for you. :lol

Hehe 01-06-2025 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9160134)
8yr 160k warranty. They'll replace it if it drops below 70% iirc. It's 2 years old at this point I'll just milk it.
Yes, but the problem is getting the BMS to actually read below 70%.

Even at rounded 70%, it's still "good" by their definition. But the whole performance, as far as gas saving is concerned, will lose quite a bit.

Someone I know has a PHEV and he "milked" it like you said. Fully charged overnight, it shows 83%, but his ICE kicks in much more often since the battery can no longer supply with enough power for many things to a point it's like his ICE is always running and he went from 6L/100km average to 8.9L/100km driving pretty much the same route/condition and everything.

radeonboy 01-06-2025 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 9160209)
Yes, but the problem is getting the BMS to actually read below 70%.

Even at rounded 70%, it's still "good" by their definition. But the whole performance, as far as gas saving is concerned, will lose quite a bit.

Someone I know has a PHEV and he "milked" it like you said. Fully charged overnight, it shows 83%, but his ICE kicks in much more often since the battery can no longer supply with enough power for many things to a point[...]
Which PHEV is this?

I think it'll difficult for the X5 45e to show lower than 70% battery health - AFAIK there's a software lock on the 45e batteries in NA vehicles since the same battery yields more range in Euro-spec models. I assume the software will just enable more of buffered range when the battery health starts dropping to compensate for the bad cells.

GLOW 01-06-2025 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9160142)
So get this….

My old man calls me today saying he’s stranded in Costco. His Lexus rx400h won’t start.

I said fine I’ll call bcaa and they’ll either jump start him or just do a battery swap right there.

He calls me 10 minutes later saying he’s got it started somehow and to cancel the bcaa.

Now I’m concerned that the ICE battery is probably going because he only drives in the city and he’s often stupid with leaving his headlights on.

I rush to his house in east van, grab his car and then take it all the way back to my place in Richmond and buy a new Costco AGM battery.

Since I got the car I also swapped his wipers and did an oil change.

I bring it back to him and he’s like it’s weird how it starts after 10 minutes.

I’m like wait a minute…. I should have fucking clued in. The car was actually running but because he’s parked the ICE didn’t kick in and he was running in EV mode. It’s dead silent and the old coot is deaf. Fuck I’m so stupid. I should have told him to put it in drive and see if it even moves before I do this whole Shabang.

TLDR: don’t buy geezers hybrids or EVs. They’ll call you asking stupid question and it’ll drive you insane

Oh by the way I went to go get the battery tested afterwards and of course it’s fucking fine.
long play for your dad to get you to provide free maintenance.
well played dad Kappa :troll:
jk

AstulzerRZD 01-06-2025 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 9160209)
Yes, but the problem is getting the BMS to actually read below 70%.

Even at rounded 70%, it's still "good" by their definition. But the whole performance, as far as gas saving is concerned, will lose quite a bit.

Someone I know has a PHEV and he "milked" it like you said. Fully charged overnight, it shows 83%, but his ICE kicks in much more often since the battery can no longer supply with enough power for many things to a point it's like his ICE is always running and he went from 6L/100km average to 8.9L/100km driving pretty much the same route/condition and everything.
Tbh this + loud ass engines + PHEV inefficiency with geared trans is what convinced me on full EV.
Battery and charging is now at a point where it is family usable without anxiety.

On EV9 / Escalade iQ / Lucid Gravity / Porsche; you can road trip anywhere and not have to think even in worst case conditions.
500-800km is still 300-500km cold
15 minute refills is just 20-30 in winter
Supercharger access for all

In like 5k miles of EV road tripping I have never not been able to charge at Electrify America/Tesla/Chargepoint

EvoFire 01-06-2025 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 9160209)
Yes, but the problem is getting the BMS to actually read below 70%.

Even at rounded 70%, it's still "good" by their definition. But the whole performance, as far as gas saving is concerned, will lose quite a bit.

Someone I know has a PHEV and he "milked" it like you said. Fully charged overnight, it shows 83%, but his ICE kicks in much more often since the battery can no longer supply with enough power for many things to a point it's like his ICE is always running and he went from 6L/100km average to 8.9L/100km driving pretty much the same route/condition and everything.
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Originally Posted by radeonboy (Post 9160215)
Which PHEV is this?

I think it'll difficult for the X5 45e to show lower than 70% battery health - AFAIK there's a software lock on the 45e batteries in NA vehicles since the same battery yields more range in Euro-spec models. I assume the software will just enable more of buffered range when the battery health starts dropping to compensate for the bad cells.
The X5 can force full EV, though like you said I don't know how well that works as the battery degrades. The electric motor has enough juice around town and only when I'm climbing a big steep hill like Boundary or Royal Oak from a stand still, or I'm trying to overtake someone at 100km/h is it painful in EV mode.

There's a test that is built in to the car's systems but it takes something like 24 hours to run. I tried triggering it once with a friend and well... Let's just say it took us sometime to reset the car as there is no exit process

We'll see where things are in a few years. As it stands the car has been in service for 3 years. So there's still 5 years to kill the battery lol.

Hehe 01-06-2025 04:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by radeonboy (Post 9160215)
Which PHEV is this?

I think it'll difficult for the X5 45e to show lower than 70% battery health - AFAIK there's a software lock on the 45e batteries in NA vehicles since the same battery yields more range in Euro-spec models. I assume the software will just enable more of buffered range when the battery health starts dropping to compensate for the bad cells.
BMW X3 PHEV... not sure which model year, but he has had it for a while now.

Manic! 01-06-2025 07:48 PM
You can now pre order a Sony Afeela if you live in California. $200 deposit. It has a PS5 built in.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oSxBh-KhrpI

https://www.shm-afeela.com/en/

TypeRNammer 01-09-2025 03:58 PM
https://www.drive.com.au/news/2025-t...ed-this-is-it/

Low quality spy shots of the uncovered Model Y in winter testing.

JDMDreams 01-09-2025 04:31 PM
Is that a full light bar at the front?

AstulzerRZD 01-09-2025 05:00 PM
Ew

68style 01-09-2025 05:46 PM
WOW IT LOOKS SO DIFFERENT......................................... ...........

Not

TypeRNammer 01-09-2025 06:05 PM
https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tes...egin-in-march/

China has officially updated their website for the Model Y

underscore 01-09-2025 06:14 PM
So they took a Y and slapped the new Prius headlights on it?

TypeRNammer 01-09-2025 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9160827)
So they took a Y and slapped the new Prius headlights on it?
Design wise, it's not that much of an update.

But if they improve on the NVH and suspension, that's going to be a big plus.

EvoFire 01-09-2025 08:04 PM
So they cybertruck'ed the front and rear.

JDMDreams 01-09-2025 08:36 PM
I like it, rook rook more Asian. Yes, the updated 3 feels so much more solid than even the facelift Gen 1, even though same general platform. That China build quality > than fat ass muricans

Badhobz 01-09-2025 09:22 PM
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6...ring-lap-time/

Speaking of Ching Chong cars. Holy shit. That’s pretty impressive beating the taycan turbo S by 20 seconds. Considering they only started making cars 3 years ago, Chinese EVs are insane. No wonder they don’t let them in here. It’ll kill all you motherfuckers…. And then we take it. mmmmm!!!!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...h5M6Q&usqp=CAU

radeonboy 01-09-2025 09:26 PM
My first impression of most of the newer Chinese EVs is incredibly positive and most of them are already more than competitive in global markets.

My main outstanding hesitation with them right now is their long-term reliability. Given how fast new models get churned out, I'm not sure how rigorous their durability tests are.

JDMDreams 01-09-2025 10:35 PM
So I wonder to by pass tariffs and shit, can you just buy a China car from like China plate it there or Mexico or whatever Mexican country that sells them. And "drive" it up here. Like those overland weirdos with euro plates.

Mikoyan 01-09-2025 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9160852)
So I wonder to by pass tariffs and shit, can you just buy a China car from like China plate it there or Mexico or whatever Mexican country that sells them. And "drive" it up here. Like those overland weirdos with euro plates.
Tariff is based on the manufacturing location. Plating it in Mexico won't affect the tariff.


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