The main issue with these Outlander PHEVs seems to be that they can't start when they sit outside cold. Reportedly the cutoff is -20C, but people are also saying it varies. And apparently leaving the charger plugged in + block heater for the ICE doesn't help. There are a lot of complaints out there about it.

The "solutions" are to either wait it out or tow into a garage lol.

That's a great tip, thanks I'll try that next. The other thing I'd noticed was that I can almost never manually put the vehicle in EV mode. Keeps saying "EV mode unavailable". Maybe it's because I've always had the HVAC set to 17C lol.

25C seems pretty toasty, but it's worth a shot!

Lol... come on man...

Chinese EVs are killing it...

It should be...

Cons: Its not Chinese....

I test drove almost all the brands when I was in Shanghai... and lemme tell ou for like $40-45K CAD.... they shit all over my model 3 all day everyday.... and I am talking about multiple brands with multiple models

Longer range
Faster accel
Better infotainment
Massage/Heated/Cooled front seats
Heated/Cooled rear seats
Like I spead broken mando, and the system was able to pick up my every command
Their HUD is almost AR like for Navigation
Their autopark is actually not slow... but I wouldnt call it fast...

https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tes...on-february-1/

Big price increases coming to Tesla Canada February 1st

Thats going to completely tank their demand no?

Well, thanks to our snow peso, it was a matter of time.

And wait for all the other manufacturers to follow suit. They all hedge their currencies vs. USD since most parts are priced in USD.

NooooOooOOooOOOooo

See, once again, I shouldve just M3P when I had the chance... longer I wait... the more expensive it gets~

Time to just buy used local or JDM import. I doubt it makes sense to justify ev now with no discounts + higher price and high %

I’m still waiting for my royal lounge alphard. Not the 08 one cuz it’s one gen too old. But the one afterwards.

08 is transition year. Had old and new second Gen. I haven't seen any second Gen Royal lounge or hybrids yet.

Ready for bj lounge

https://alphardclub.b-cdn.net/upload...e441b9a37.jpeg

I guess this is where Badhobz seals a deal on multiple Porsches.

and no more $5k federal rebate either

Do it now before it jumps up 9 grand :lawl:

that looks magnificent. Although I guess that would be reserved for spy balloon / chihuahua since ill be the schmuck driving it around.

But maybe when its parked I can run to the back and enjoy

You can take it to the gym and meet Ferrari girl

:ifyouknow:

if you have it set to 28c and above, the ICE engine rarely shuts off


theres 2 ev modes, the button is used when your engine is already warm and you press it, only good for parking lots and low speed stuff and the other ev mode is when your cruising below 65km/h and light load and the ICE will turn off and become EV mode

Last call anyone still want a Tucson PHEV with the $5K rebate?

It's been popular in Europe for about a decade now; seems fine if not a bit underpowered on highway.

It supports 60kw DC fast charging so it refills in 30 minutes; compared to RAV4 Prime doing 3kw fast charging for 5 hour refill.

O noes everyone's favorite beetle isn't doing so well

https://financialpost.com/commoditie...-cut-1900-jobs

The Macan EV is not selling at all. I was visiting PCV to inquire about the GT3 Touring (400k after taxes WTF) and the sales I know said there's almost no interest in the Macan EV. But there also isn't much advertising of it.

Other than the Taycan, which also isn't selling, Porsche hasn't done much to put their electric offerings on the front page.

Doesn't help that the car starts at $100k and hovers around $125k with a few needed options. That puts it in R1S / Model X Plaid / Gravity price territory while being Model Y in size. Weirdly enough I've seen more Macan EVs in Hong Kong than here.

Anyhow, here are some photos of new EVs from my recent HK trip. The Chinese EVs are arriving in full force here and are reasonably priced for the market.

Xpeng X9
https://i.ibb.co/chyP04YX/Xpeng-x9-front.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/CKJdK4WR/X9-rear.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/p6RCB8XQ/X9-interior-front.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/MxHLwWvx/X9-interior-front-2.jpg

Zeekr 009 - the new Alphard alternative and incredibly popular with many deliveries lined up.
https://i.ibb.co/N6vngPMT/009-front.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/6cSf9NDY/009-rear.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/WpsS9dWk/009-intetrior-front.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/9HG4f5js/009-delivery.jpg

New Model Y - meh.
https://i.ibb.co/jk4BFKKt/Model-Y.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/m5f6fWt1/Model-Y-rear.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/kVyBtwBF/Model-Y-interior.jpg

Zeekr 7X - A very promising model that is targeting the Model Y but with way more creature comforts.
https://i.ibb.co/0ppg7zWN/7x-front.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/hxKmZ80c/7x-rear.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/C5SGFRLR/7x-interior-2.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/gFcJrZ8c/7x-interior-1.jpg

Polestar 4 - Incredibly meh, especially compared to a 7X
https://i.ibb.co/wrN2kY6j/P4.jpg

only the old farts in HK prefer the Chinese brand EV.

Toyota (gas), Mercedes (gas) and Tesla are still the top choices here.

What's needed for China evs to come in? Crash testing? All this tariffs talks makes me want one even more.

Canada has a 106.1% tariff on China EV's.


As of October 1, 2024, Canada has a 100% tariff on Chinese-made electric vehicles (EVs). This tariff applies in addition to the 6.1% Most-Favored Nation (MFN) import tariff

^^ yea they need to get rid of that, fucked us over for following us and it makes no sense