Currently yes white is the free color option.

When it was first released, black was the free standard option.

Checking back in, now that I've had a good go in both the Model Y (about an hour test drive), and the Mach E (had an overnight test drive so about 20 hours with the car). Model Y was the standard Duel Motor, the Mach E was a comparable AWD long range, so as close as you'll get for both power and range for both.

Price - Model Y - $69k (Duel motor before options) Mach E - $72k (AWD Extended Range model)

First Impressions:

Model Y - Love the look of the model y, the "Fish face" doesn't bother me at all and love the wide hips of the rear. Interior is simple as most of you know, but clean and plenty of storage. The main screen, being the only display in the car, is easy to use and has quick response time. Storage is ample for a midsize SUV and the rear storage below the floor is awesome.

Mach E - Another great looking SUV, the large front end gives it a much more aggressive look compared to the model y, lack of door handles only adds to its sleekness. Display in front of the wheel showing speed and other important information is great, however the screen response time was pretty slow and laggy at times which was annoying. Tons of interior storage and feels much bigger than it looks from the outside.


Driving impressions -

Both have more than enough power for daily driving, absolutely no issue with either of them. Overtaking at hwy speeds is very easy and smooth delivery.

The initial take off from a stop at lights is much smoother with the tesla as the ford has a slight jerk when the brake is released, same goes for coming to a stop with one pedal driving turned on. Tesla has perfected the one pedal where as ford needs a little refining I thought. Driving around I did not have an issue with Teslas screen being the only way to show speed or information, my wife on the other hand preferred the Ford when it came to having a screen right in front of your face (This was her first time driving an EV so the interior was more comparable to normal car so take that into account). Cornering they both felt great for a midsize SUV and were smooth without a shit ton of body roll, Ford felt a little more planted in that respect however, but only slightly. Ride quality is good in both, not amazing. Comfortable but definitely stiff over larger bumps compared to our current 2017 Hyundai Tucson.

Storage I felt the Y was much more useable, especially in the trunk space, the rear hatch design of the Mach E is quite sloped so even with the floor moved to its lower setting, still looked a little cramped (I threw my 60lb Lab in the back of each quickly to see if she approved, Model Y was the winner in her books).

Thoughts after a day or 2 -

Loved both, would be more than happy with the RWD Mach E that starts at just over $50k, however the range (330kms or so) and only being RWD (since my wife and 2 kids will be in it during winter) might be an issue. Once you spec the Mach E out to be the same as a Model Y, it's about the same price and that kinda takes away the allure of the Mach E for me. The little things that annoyed me in the Mach E were the screen being super slow and the doors not always opening when pushing the button.

Model Y with their charging network (although its opening up to everyone soon) as well as their experience in the space already (brushing out the little kinks), is my winner.

Wife impressions -

Since these are everyday family vehicles figure I'd throw in what my wife thinks since she would be the one driving it most.

Model Y was her clear winner, loved the interior simplicity once she got used to it, said she could get used to only looking at the screen for information. She really liked the interior of the Mach E as there was tons of space even with the kids seats behind her but the model Y she felt more comfortable in. Wasn't a huge fan of how long the hood is on the Mach E and the rear window is a little small for her liking (sloping angle didn't help). Driving them both, Model Y she loved, Mach E there were too many little things she didn't like.


Bit of a long one but figured I might as well share my experience with them since they're both pretty big players in the EV SUV game right now. Cheers :nyan:

Yes..black,blue,grey is an extra $1300 and red is an extra $2300.

Get the white ... and use the amount that you would have towards a unique wrap for $3-4000?

This picture is why I suggest to people that when buying an EV to buy as much range as you can afford. I have a long range and can go from Langley to Kamploops without stopping. I usually do stop in Merritt though for food and a quick 15 minute charge at the SC there but with so many short range Tesla's on the road you are going to see more lineups as they just can't go as far between stops.

my understanding is that there was a meet there to celebrate additional chargers in hope a couple of weeks ago.

clicked on their twitter page, you see which way this person leans on EV's, among other things 4Head

has anyone looked into the bmw i4? seems to be priced around the model 3 pricing.

Agreed. That person's twitter is full of weird crap.
That being said, yes there was a meet back in July for the grand opening of the Tesla chargers in Hope.

There are 10 chargers in Hope and another 12 near Silver Creek.

so I doubt that pic is real in the sense it took that long to get a charge.

It's the same thing horse owners said when gas cars first showed up. I can get water and hay anywhere for my horse. Where am I going to find gas.

Speaking of ev, has anyone tried the Mirai? I see them once in a blue moon, and I recall Toyota was including $15000 in hydrogen credits with the car. The new one looks amazing and on the Toyota release it says it has up to 850 km range? I don't see the new one on the Toyota site yet though:accepted:

With very limited fueling stations, good luck on roam around freely without range anxiety.

Like there are only 3 stations in the lower mainland (North Van, Burnaby and South Vancouver) and one in Victoria. Plus the cost of refuel is high.

Looks like the BC Mazda 3 domain got bought by a shitty porn site.
:pokerface:

I thought nothing of it until you mentioned it. It's definitely not work safe.

anyone placed a deposit on the new ioniq 5? Have the dealerships provided pricing yet?

Thanks headhunt3r and bcrdukes...signature been updated.

Picked this up last Thursday after 2 months of waiting for it to come over from Korea. Pleasantly surprised with the Hybrid fuel economy. From Coquitlam to Downtown to Richmond and back to Coquitlam averaging 4L per 100. I’ll have to do longer city drives to compare.

https://i.postimg.cc/WzJ2vrgs/01-A06...5203-B3-CA.jpg

^ saw a few of them on the road and they look decent especially the grey color one! Pretty reasonable price, right? Nice looking lines, no range/distance anxiety. From the back, it looks like a sportback but I think it's a regular trunk.

Only thing that might have been even better is if it was a Plug in hybrid ... then you'd get that HOV OK sticker.

Yeah the rear has sportback styling and tons of trunk + rear seat space. The HOV sticker would be nice for sure but I agree I don’t like the range anxiety in a full EV. I understand with an EV you need to plan your trip very well before you go but I like the freedom of a hybrid for now until charging gets faster, range gets longer and more charging stations in the outskirts.

This is where I think car manufacturers need to look at. Options for bigger batteries like what Tesla has done.
Everyone conforms to one charging standard, and heavily invest into the charging structure.
Tesla is the leader in charging stations. They plan on opening them up to non-Teslas.
It won't happen over night but I think most governments agree.

What are the long term reviews and issues on EV's? I know everyone loves their new shiny Tesla but anyone here owned one past say 150K kms? Does the battery capacity decrease significantly? Battery replacement in most NA EV's are extremely expensive. Are we replacing one problem of ICE engine with an environmental disaster of having to junk the whole car after 10-15 years?

The big looming problem with old EVs: It’s really, really hard to change the battery
Even on a vehicle with only 150,000 km, battery replacement can be more expensive than the car's value
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...ge-the-battery

I'm at 78K km's on my 18 Leaf.
On the car's info screen, I am still at 12 out of 12 bars on the battery.
I hate to say it, there is a lot of truth but at the same time it's no different than an ICE car. All EV's do is defer some of the cost to down the road.

There's no real used battery options right now. So you have to buy new and it is based around what the market price is on batteries.

For a used ICE car, there are plenty of used engine options. Imagine if you had to go back to the dealer and buy a crate engine when the motor of your Civic dies.

And all this talk doesn't take into account of all the earlier EV's with older battery technology.

I've heard of ppl doing lithium conversions on old hybrid Honda's and leafs. Mainly on UK and US though. I'm sure there's gonna be enough wrecked cars by then too pull used parts out of and there will be aftermarket support.

If we use Tesla Model S as some sort of arbitrary date when EV's became more mainstream ... earliest ones were in 2012, so we are entering the 10 year mark. Wondering how they are holding out in terms of battery capacity.

Something to be said about NIO who specializes in battery swap tech.

lettuce be real if a conventional econobox pops its powertrain after 13 years of service, it doesn’t matter how cheap a replacement motor is

a sign from above to move on