:lol

That is criminal.

And that's also why Tesla will stay in the lead. You can literally order a Tesla in 5 minutes sitting in your undies. Saw another story of a guy trying to get a Mustang mach E at MSRP. He could not get one from any dealer. Talked to a ford exec and he exec told him to buy a Tesla.

When I went to a Ford dealership to ask about a Mach E pre order I could not get a straight answer on the price. He could only give me a rough price.

it's a pain in the ass to order a car from a traditional manufacturer.

It really depends, my buddy bought a 2022 Subaru BR-Z recently and it couldn't have been a simpler process... emailed the dealership, dealer gave him the price and deposit details, told him an approximate delivery date... he ordered it... it showed up within 2 months and 3 months earlier than they even promised. Done and done.

They even let him claim the $500 holiday discount Subaru is offering on their vehicles. No markups, no pushing at all...

Of course there's going to be advantage takers when you're looking for the same thing as everyone else. Just another pig at the trough in that case.

I mean yah Tesla is simple, but they're also not delivering your car for 8 months from now minimum. That's a pretty important detail to most people. The people ripping others off and taking advantage are around with Tesla... they're just in the used market.

didn't tesla raise prices 3 times in the past weeks though

that's why people can get away with asking 15% more than msrp for 2nd hand

https://www.iseecars.com/used-cars-c...than-new-study

Exactly what I did while laying in bed one morning.

I'm not sure about them raising the price 3 times but they did raise it a bit. I bought my first Model 3 in 2018 and the LR RWD was $67,700 at the time. about 6 months later they reduced the price on their cars by about $5k CDN, this hurt the resale of my car. In June I sold my 2018 for more than it was worth and bought a 2021 Dual Motor before they raised their price, I paid $67,480. The new price for the same car after they increased the price is a whopping $68,290. That's an $810 increase that people are complaining about.

It's still cheaper than the approximate $73k price of the Dual Motor when it was first available.

Another thing with Tesla is there's only one price. There's no MSRP price, dealer discount, dealer mark up, buddy guy best deal bro sign today price. :heckno: I don't have to waste time to find the car at 10 different dealers, if they have the colour and spec I want, for best price, finance rate. Everything is done before I have to commit to the car.

at least 3 times

https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/tesla/...se-in-14-days/

since that article it's 3k more to get 7km extra range at the expense of 0.5s in 0-60

again i think it's justified given the screwed up market..i was just too optimistic they'd stick to the 35k usd target elon had set even now with the volume production

went into JP DT toyota and put in a deposit for a prius prime. i figured my wife driving it about 12km round trip for work, plug it in once every week should be enough and barely will use the gas. ETA is about march - april for the car

Sorry, I don't have the point of reference for the SR+ as I purchased the Dual Motor. If they increased the price on the SR+ $1400 and the Dual Motor by only $810, it makes the Dual Motor an even better purchase.

100k for a rav4? You can get a model y with that price with auto pilot

Or a MK4 Supra

When will it arrive though?

Before Toyota's?:pokerface::lawl:

Well, you are comparing a company with like 5 skues to a company with 100 across all their markets.

Instead of making 3 kinds of door handles, you're making 50.

Last I heard the wait time for a Rav4 Prime was 2-3 years :lawl:

the sales person i talked to for the prius prime told me its about 3-4 years wait time now.

I asked him about the bz4x and he had zero info on it. even thought he said its suppose to be out in mid 2022 lol

At least Tesla will let you get in line. Some companies will just laugh at you.

Yet the company that makes 3 door handles is worth more than the company that makes 50.

-2 for the 86 & Supra.

Please name the 100 models toyota or whichever single auto manufacturer makes.

^ Someone woke up today and decided to be overly literal

Nah…just calling out unnecessary Tesla bash.

WTF!?!?! Elon. The top of the line cyber truck was the 3 motor when they had pre orders. Now he is saying they added a 4 motor and the 4 motor will be produced first.

What about all the people with pre orders?

he thanks them for the free pr and loan