I'm actually curious, so I asked Mazda for a mx-30 press car for a month I want to see just how hard it is to live in vancouver with 160km of range. It's going to be in the month of February so it's still going to be cold. I only have access to 120v plug so I think it's going to be a good experience.

Looking forward to your review :bigthumb:

Like I've said, buy double what one needed, a 40kwh leaf is at least $5000 cheaper than any other 400+km EV. Imagine people have access to charge at work and home...A 24 or 30kwh would work just fine.

So IMO to suggest to buy the longest rang one can buy is a bad advice.

i live in east van and this would be fine for me driving out to chilliwack for a site visit so i'd like to think 160km range is fine for city commuting, but look forward to the review :)

As a family we rarely travel beyond East Van/Richmond/Burnaby so 160km seems more than sufficient. I had the MX-30 previously for a week and I thought it was okay for what I needed to do which was little drives here and there but having it for a month should show more shortcomings.

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I recall seeing several Tesla supercharger stations in all the little towns heading to Cache Creek including Cache Creek itself

How can any non Tesla charge at a Tesla station? The car and charger talk to each other and you automatically get charged through your tesla account with no intervention by the driver. It's not like at a Flo station or one of the other third party ones where you need one of their apps with a credit card attached to it or even have to carry a balance with them.

It's possible. Lots of how to videos out there. In Europe charging at Superchargers is possible. Here, in NA, only level two Tesla chargers or home chargers can charge non-tesla vehicle. So far.

https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/support/...-supercharging


https://www.forbes.com/sites/alistai...h=4049cb4c784d

https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesl...-to-other-evs/

From Netherlands..................

I don't think I've seen a lot of Tesla Level 2 chargers out there.

Yes, In europe Tesla's use a different plug than in North America as they've standardized things far better than in North America. I was referring to Supercharging in North America, not using level 1 or 2 home chargers/destination chargers where you don't have to pay Tesla to use them.

There's none in that area other than Merritt/Hope/Kamloop

However, BCHydro has DCFC along the HWY1. At least I know for sure there's one at Boston Bar since that's where I charged last summer. It's outside of a crappy bowling place. Even went in for a round with the kids while waiting.

Well that makes sense, cuz I had to come home through Merritt and Hope because of 99 closures

Is there any Petro Canada's with chargers along the way up to Cache Creek?
I know this past summer, I was in Hope and they had a few BC Hydro DCFC's, there was an Esso truck stop that had a row of Tesla chargers, and Petro Can had their own DCFC's.

Cache Creek, BC Supercharger
Cache Creek Visitor Information Centre
1270 Stage Road
Cache Creek, BC V0K 1H0

South Surrey Tesla superchargers vandalized. They were supposed to be activated this Wednesday.
https://driveteslacanada.ca/supercha...tish-columbia/

I never thought I'd visit this thread but after having 3 V8's with 2 that require 91 for a while now combined with these recent fuel price hikes I'm feeling like a chump defending ICE's. Between my wife and I we both don't commute to work so driving is fairly mimimal, but we do drive 10 minutes here and then 15 minutes there so the worst kind of driving for a gas vehicle. En EV would be perfect these all in-town trips. I'll go back and read through this thread to gain some insight but for now here's where I'm at.

1) Sell the LX570 and replace it with something like the Audi e-tron (still researching EV SUV's)
2) Wait for an EV truck to be released and sell the Tundra (still as ways away from these being available though)
3) Keep both and just get a putt-around-town car for commutes that don't require a large SUV or pick up truck (maybe this would show us which ICE to sell)

The Lightning and Silverado EV's look great with crazy power and towing specs but sadly they are a long ways off. A year at least for a Lightning and 2024 for the Silverado. Not sure what else is available.

Tesla can eat a fat dick IMO and I'm not interested in spending any money with that brand so that has been my biggest challenge with entering into the EV market. But now with lots of other automakers getting into the market space it shows promise for better styling and longer range.

Off to rabbit-hole a bit. I'll report back.

^Whats the issue you have with Tesla?

^^ it would seem like option 1 would be your best bet. Unless there is a reason why you need 2 big sized vehicles. Then you have one EV and one big V8 vehicle (when you need it)... best of both worlds?

My father had a Model X in 2017 and is was complete junk. I hear quality has improved though. Styling is barf worthy and they are a dime a dozen. Not a fan of Elon either really but that's just icing on the cake.

Agreed. We definitely need a truck for truck stuff and since a 1 ton diesel is out and the Tundra is the only half ton truck I'll accept then it would make sense to keep it and watch the EV truck market for now.

The LX is great for road trips, I like the towing availability, the 8 passenger option is nice too (2 families of 4 for outings where parking may be an issue or why take two vehicles when one will do). Also, 600kms+ is doable on highway trips even with the V8 while 450kms is a stretch with city driving. So I guess I'd want an 8 passenger EV SUV with a 600kms range and 7000lb towing capacity. Does that exist? I'll research but quick answers are welcome.

Closest thing would be the Rivian R1S. 7,700lb towing, seats 7, 480km of range. Probably won't be cheap to spec it out to your needs but I guess that's the same for the other EV trucks.

https://rivian.com/r1s

The thief's were very fortunate that they were not turned on as those cables have a lot of juice running through them.

They cut the cables from the chargers that would plug into the car.
Even if the chargers were live, there is no juice in them until they are plugged into the car and the car communicates to the chargers to bill the owner of the car.

It's not like a live wire on top of the power poles.

At this moment, what you're looking for does not exist.

There are options in the future like the Rivian said above. There's going to be a Hummer SUV after the truck but I think it's going to be a 5-seater.

The Rivian might be able to pull 7700lbs, but you're not going to get anywhere near 480km range with that. Everything that I have seen regarding towing and EV's is that you expect your range to decrease by 2/3rds or more when towing.