Essential - $45k
Preferred - $47k

Preferred Long Range - $52k
Preferred Long Range AWD - $55k
- Optional Ultimate package $5k

You basically want the Preferred as base as Preferred adds
- 6 way adjustable passenger seat
- Heat pump
- Heated steering wheel
- Ultra Fast Charger

basically came to $53k all in, after taxes and net of the rebates. I was looking for something that was eligible for the 5k federal and 3k provincial.

All the marketing materials use pictures of the top trim (the Ultimate) where the wheel arches and the side cladding on the door are silver instead of the shitty black plastic on every other trim. I think that's where the discrepancy is, at least to me. Here's a picture of the "Shooting Star" matte black colour ($1,000 option) where the wheel arches and side cladding are more colour matched which looks way better imo. Oh and 20s on the Ultimate vs 19s on everything else.

https://i.imgur.com/kUpJT9U.jpg

Same colour but Ultimate trim:
https://images.hgmsites.net/hug/2022...00792728_h.jpg

53 eh.. pretty good for an SUV

Why can't they just make it normal doors instead of having that hard line cutting across the panel and adding whatever that is to the bottom of the doors. EV designers be like, we need to make EVs ugly to stand out from ICE cars....

It's all about aerodynamic/drag efficiency.

Anything that sticks out unnecessary is going to cut range. IIRC, the 2 side mirrors, if removed can improve range by up to 3%. It might not sound like much, but you have 2% here, 1% there and another 0.5% from another thing, it'd mean a lot in the overall operation of an EV.

Think it this way, battery is the biggest single source of cost for any EV. If you are targeting... say 300km range, and you can effectively improve range by 5% on designing the shape of the car, it'd mean that the carmaker can save 5% on battery cost or roughly 1.5-3% of the overall car cost while everything else stays the same.

Tesla is going a step further. On CT, it supposed to have no cutoff whatsoever. It's just a sensor on the b-pillar that one swipe.

Is it really a SUV, though? It looks like the ground clearance is akin to that of a hatchback.

In other news, the 2023 Sequoia was revealed, yesterday. Comes standard with the hybrid powertrain from the new Tundra. Finally looks decent, and not an afterthought like the previous model.

Kinda like a cross over I guess.. model Y sits similar no?

The new EVs all look different but all have that low tight look ala Model Y/Pornstar 2(name courtesy of wife :D)/Kia Ioniq.

We need something slightly bigger/taller, but that goes against the physical efficiency, can't beat physics. I would love a low tight car, but it's not the most practical. I'd also imagine anything that's taller/bigger is gonna cost a lot more.

You can afford it!

That line will be an absolute nightmare to straighten out in any accident/door damage of any sorts. Thank God I'm leaving that trade

Still digesting this long awaited release. At first I saw GMC Terrain vibes but other than that terrible comparison it's pretty much what I expected. Hybrid MAX standard on all models was a welcome surprise. That's pretty dope. Definitely a contender and with the MAX as a standard option it kind of shit-kicks the LX600. Waiting to see if the LX follows in a year or so.

Damn the ioniq is growing on me.
I put a deposit down for the Y back in November but savings with the too spec ioniq 5 there is a hefty price difference plus it qualifies for the incentives.
Only thing is...it looks too small and the avalabity of a hitch is still a question mark?

I love my 3p, and count myself lucky I've had no serious issues so far.......

What's the wait times like for the ioniq 5? My Y isn't supposed to be here till July.

you work in the trade but i'm always puzzled when others base their purchases on fixing up fender benders

Oh I'm not. I'm basing this on 20+ years of Autobody experience

Hyundai will not take more order For 2022 as of Jan 31. Even than the allotment will be Dec if everything lines up.

Oof guess I'm sticking with the Y then sincen would need car by July latest.


Thanks donald!

Looks like the Cybertruck won't be coming till possibly 2024 now

Yea, seems like production will ramp in 2023 so we'll get it in 2024.

Not sure if you seen the more recent video, it doesnt look as impressive as it's not as big as the concept.

The original Cybertruck was supposed to be Ram 3500 sized. This one looks Ford Ranger sized.

starting to feel like duke nukem forever/star citizen of the automotive world

any time things get stretched development and have to go back to the drawing board, it rarely turns out to meet expectations

i think the smaller size is beneficial for vancouver (it's more ridgeline than f150 anyways)..as long as they can deliver on price and range that will be good enough for most of the reservation holders

Here's a good video where they talk about all the issues with towing a car with a Rivian R1T.
Granted they are paraphrasing another couple but it sounds like the information is pretty reliable as they were the ones to tow the 2000 lb trailer with their Model X.

Yeah I actually don't mind the updated design, and I'm sure most of these people who reserved one right away have never actually driven a F350 sized truck before and would quickly realize it's not for them.

Honestly the smaller they make it the better off they'll probably be. Unless you have a driveway even a regular F150 doesn't fit in a lot of garages so charging it at night becomes another issue.

Yea, I hear ya. I drove the F-150 for a week while it was manageable it wasn't the best experience.

In honestly I'm kinda interested in the VW iD.Buzz. Imo Electric cars should be weird, quirky. Something different rather than blending in or looking like a massive egg.

Anyone here have the current-gen Soul EV that can share their experience? I'm looking for something to commute and putter around in and this seems to fit the bill price and range-wise.

My boss has a 2017 with the 30 kwh battery.
right now the battery is at 91% and he only gets about 100km of range.

BEsides that, he's enjoyed the car.

What else would you like to know?