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SumAznGuy 02-03-2022 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 6thGear. (Post 9052998)

Good to know it's still up but $500 is not worth the 6 months of insurance.

twitchyzero 02-06-2022 07:04 PM

shitt can't imagine the price and markup
80kwh 242hp trailer

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...642622372.jpeg

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...tream-concept/

dark0821 02-06-2022 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 9053090)
You need a base model under 45k and the upper trim can't be more than 55000.

Saw an internal email and Hyundai Canada did something really smart with the Ioniq 5 Ultimate...

The "Ultimate" is considered as an add-on package (not a standalone trim) to the preferred long range AWD which is 54,995. Making the Ultimate still qualifying for the full 8K rebate program.

Great68 02-07-2022 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 9053555)

That's a great idea!

Although now you're also spending twice as long at a charger...

SumAznGuy 02-07-2022 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9053609)
That's a great idea!

Although now you're also spending twice as long at a charger...

But you'll save yourself time with more range if the trailer can transfer power to the EV or reduce the energy usage with its two drive motors.

Add a giant solar panel on top of the RV to charge the batteries when it is parked at the camp site.

Lots of possibilities there but then comes the weight issue.

Wouldn't make too much sense to be a car hauling trailer.

Great68 02-07-2022 01:26 PM

I mean, some of the biggest RV Solar systems put out around 500watts.

That's not going to charge any EV much, even less if you're actually using power for camping purposes...

underscore 02-07-2022 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9053609)
That's a great idea!

Although now you're also spending twice as long at a charger...

Could you use two chargers at the same time? Given how the chargers I've seen are laid out side by side you're have to unhook the trailer to do it but it would save you time. Then trickle charge them back up at the campsite.

I'm curious about the legalities of the trailer having its own powered wheels though.

Great68 02-07-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9053632)
Could you use two chargers at the same time? Given how the chargers I've seen are laid out side by side you're have to unhook the trailer to do it but it would save you time. Then trickle charge them back up at the campsite.

I'm curious about the legalities of the trailer having its own powered wheels though.

Of course you could, but other people waiting to charge their own car probably wouldn't be too happy...

I can't imagine there would be any major legal issues around having self powered wheels on the trailer. I'm sure there would need to be some sort of safety links between the trailer and tow vehicle, but really it's no different than trailer brake systems in that aspect.

Manic! 02-07-2022 01:41 PM

I wonder if you could use that RV to power your house when the power goes out or even better use it like a Tesla power wall so It could be charged via solar panels on your roof and then use that power at night.

SumAznGuy 02-07-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9053642)
I wonder if you could use that RV to power your house when the power goes out or even better use it like a Tesla power wall so It could be charged via solar panels on your roof and then use that power at night.

I was thinking along these lines when the RV is parked and not in use.

Not meant to fully charge the EV when stopped, but I can see there being some usage.
Heck, imagine able to recycle old batteries and use them for short term storage or something like that.

68style 02-07-2022 07:36 PM

So in a fleet management meeting the other day, they tried to tell us that a huge benefit of an electric car is that during an emergency/power outage you can reverse flow and use it as a generator to power your home or things like that.

Even IF that were the case... I can't imagine a car's battery pack is going to power a fucking home for more than like what an hour tops? lol

What a silly example.

bcrdukes 02-07-2022 08:22 PM

What's the use case in this scenario? Disaster planning and preparedness? lol

dark0821 02-07-2022 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9053680)
So in a fleet management meeting the other day, they tried to tell us that a huge benefit of an electric car is that during an emergency/power outage you can reverse flow and use it as a generator to power your home or things like that.

Even IF that were the case... I can't imagine a car's battery pack is going to power a fucking home for more than like what an hour tops? lol

What a silly example.

that and... how would you get your home EV power ready? I mean yea.. the F150 Lightning specifically boasts that in their commercials... but how would a conventional home plug into a Lightning? Is there like a super expensive power supply that plugs into my electric panel on one end... and plugs into an ev onthe other end?

I am just talking out of my ass, have 0 electrical background, and did 0 research lololol.... but i know my house dont have a plug that says... plug here to power the house....

Manic! 02-07-2022 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9053680)
So in a fleet management meeting the other day, they tried to tell us that a huge benefit of an electric car is that during an emergency/power outage you can reverse flow and use it as a generator to power your home or things like that.

Even IF that were the case... I can't imagine a car's battery pack is going to power a fucking home for more than like what an hour tops? lol

What a silly example.

Quick google search shows an average Canadian house uses 800KW a month. I have no idea how actuate that is. The RV has at 80KW battery pack. That means you could run your house for about 3 days. With Solar panels on your roof you could You would extend that. In the case of a power outage you would only run the important stuff like heat, refrigeration and lighting. That would increase the amount of time you have even more.

Most people I guess only use an RV a few times a year. So if you have solar panels the RV batteries could be charged during the day when power demand of a house is low because people are not at home and then that stored energy could be used at night when you have more power draw.

Adding a plug to feed power back into your house is not that hard. Many people in places that have power outages install them so they can connect a gas generator to them.

Mikoyan 02-08-2022 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9053642)
I wonder if you could use that RV to power your house when the power goes out or even better use it like a Tesla power wall so It could be charged via solar panels on your roof and then use that power at night.

Or you could just live in the RV? That just seems more efficient to me.

I get the use case though, to use the RV instead of a generator to power the fridge/freezer/lights.

GLOW 02-08-2022 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9053680)
So in a fleet management meeting the other day, they tried to tell us that a huge benefit of an electric car is that during an emergency/power outage you can reverse flow and use it as a generator to power your home or things like that.

Even IF that were the case... I can't imagine a car's battery pack is going to power a fucking home for more than like what an hour tops? lol

What a silly example.

the F150 is touted as having that option, but in an "emergency" scenario, i think a diesel genset is the way to go.

Great68 02-08-2022 07:36 AM

Don't buy a Tesla powerwall, buy a Lightning:


Realistically, if you used it sparingly this would be good for a couple days. Although, my entire life in Vancouver or Victoria I've never had a power outage more than a few hours.

My aunt and uncle who live in rural cowichan however, have lost power for days. And they need to run a 3HP pump for their water supply.

Great68 02-08-2022 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9053708)

Adding a plug to feed power back into your house is not that hard. Many people in places that have power outages install them so they can connect a gas generator to them.

Certainly, do not, ever, back feed the house through the dryer receptacle....

Nope, don't do that

*wink wink.

TypeRNammer 02-08-2022 10:21 AM

Subaru USA has opened its reservations for the Solterra as of today

No updates on the pricing still.

BlackV62K2 02-08-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TypeRNammer (Post 9053776)
Subaru USA has opened its reservations for the Solterra as of today

No updates on the pricing still.

Those fenders :heckno:

Teriyaki 02-08-2022 01:16 PM

Nothing some wrap couldn't fix

!Aznboi128 02-08-2022 01:32 PM

Out of the 3 siblings the Lexus one does look better than the rest.

Hehe 02-08-2022 03:21 PM

The F150 V2H (Vehicle to Home) capability is greatly misleading.

There is no way one could pull such a feat off without making a major upgrade to your home electrical system to be taking power from the vehicle instead of the grid. There are many home electrical components involved to do V2H, and that's the very reason why Tesla scrapped the idea. No one is going to spend thousands in upgrades just so that they can use their EV to power their home in emergency. You are better off just buying a backup generator with the same amount of money.

As of right now from the F150 presentation, it's nothing more than having a few plugs that you can use in case of power outage. But it's super inefficient because of the DC-AC conversion.

To be able to do a proper V2H, you are basically installing a Tesla Powerwall system without the battery, where the car itself acts as one. But all those hardware need to be in place in order to do that.

jcmaz 02-08-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9053733)
Certainly, do not, ever, back feed the house through the dryer receptacle....

Nope, don't do that

*wink wink.

I wonder how long your extension cord was :lol

You need at least a 50A twist lock receptacle and proper wiring back into your panel in order to back feed electrons back to your home panel. That being said, a backup generator is only supposed to keep the lights on, heat a room, and chill the freezer.

TypeRNammer 02-08-2022 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackV62K2 (Post 9053787)
Those fenders :heckno:

Call me weird but it's starting to grow on me, well specifically the Toyota version either in white or metallic grey.


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