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02-23-2022, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by M Speed  | I wonder what car that PST exception would appeal to given the comments above saying older Teslas are trash lol...
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02-23-2022, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Eff-1 | Being forced to buy an EV from a dealership seems a lot harder in the US than it is in Canada (from my experience at least). US Dealerships in general like to do whatever they can to mark up and otherwise act like shitheads when it comes to new and popular cars thus making people not want to deal with them. This is one of the reasons why companies like Tesla have gotten so popular. The process to buy a Tesla is so easy, it's just a breath of fresh air in comparison to the toxic environment that a dealership in the US can be.
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02-23-2022, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r ^ If an older Model S is around the same price point $45-50K ... would the Model 3 still be the better choice just simply because of better shelf life? Assuming other things being somewhat equal like kms and range. | Quote:
Originally Posted by JDMDreams ^ I drove a 17 model x, and everything felt clunky and slow, the screen was laggy and the button placements were weird. Also the seats weren't comfortable. Hard and didn't have any support. | It also comes down to your needs in terms of space as the Model S is much more spacious than a 3. I actually prefer the interior of the S over the 3, maybe the materials quality on the 3 is better, but it just feels so strange and sparse to me.
As for a used X, you really can't compare it to a 3.. the space/seating is the obvious one, but even just the small features of the X like automatic doors, falcon wings, etc make it a totally different experience in my biased opinion.
The screen is painfully slow on older Tesla's for sure, and its about $2.5k to upgrade to the newest one.
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02-23-2022, 01:05 PM
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#1104 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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anyone able to put in an order for the toyta bz4x? planning to put an order for it while i wait for the prius as well.
got rid of the mazda since the dealer wanted to buy it back
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02-23-2022, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lilaznviper anyone able to put in an order for the toyta bz4x? planning to put an order for it while i wait for the prius as well. | If this leaked launch schedule is anything to go by, the bz4x should be coming soon. I would call around the dealerships to find out which ones are taking a deposit. For reference I was able to put a deposit on another Toyota last year even though it wasn't officially announced.  | 
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02-23-2022, 04:46 PM
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#1106 | | Even when im right, revscene.net is still right!
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Originally Posted by lilaznviper anyone able to put in an order for the toyta bz4x? planning to put an order for it while i wait for the prius as well.
got rid of the mazda since the dealer wanted to buy it back | Granville Toyota and Destination are both taking orders. I hear the list is pretty deep though...may not get one until mid 2023.
Someone I know is the first few on the list and scheduled to get his in June/July. Placed his deposit last year.
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02-23-2022, 07:33 PM
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Thoughts on 2022 Rav 4 Hybrid XSE versus competitors in its class?
Not looking for full EV at the moment - its for my parents and they would not want the full-tech dashboards like in the ioniq 5, EV6 or Teslas. They currently have a 2019 X5 - urged them to trade it in before warranty ends (and with inflated used car prices). Almost getting what we paid for it 2 years ago.
Alternatives:
- Thinking about the Lexus NX350H or 450H as well. Extra $10k for quality interior.
- Hyundai Tucson / CRV - Hyundai was nice, however buttons were digital, and I would think resale is better on the Toyota if they ever wanted to change vehicles down the road.
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- Hard / tactile buttons for climate control
- Sub $50k
- Crossover/SUV for the height
- Hybrid or EV. good MPG
- Willing to go down from BMW x5 in terms of quality.
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02-23-2022, 09:10 PM
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#1108 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Yea but will the warranty run out before they come in stock?  | |
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02-24-2022, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by G I wonder what car that PST exception would appeal to given the comments above saying older Teslas are trash lol... | All depends what one would need.
Older tesla may come with free SC for life...so uber/lyft driver would jump on those at the right price.
I'd take a model 3 over X/S any day. Way more nimble and lots of improvement.
With that said, a used model 3 could be under 75K even at the inflated rate. Now only if you will see stealerships jack the price up even more to capture some of the PST exemption as profits.
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02-24-2022, 10:12 AM
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Alright, just picked up the Ioniq5. What do you guys want to know?
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02-24-2022, 10:26 AM
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#1111 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Originally Posted by Phozy Thoughts on 2022 Rav 4 Hybrid XSE versus competitors in its class?
Not looking for full EV at the moment - its for my parents and they would not want the full-tech dashboards like in the ioniq 5, EV6 or Teslas. They currently have a 2019 X5 - urged them to trade it in before warranty ends (and with inflated used car prices). Almost getting what we paid for it 2 years ago.
Alternatives:
- Thinking about the Lexus NX350H or 450H as well. Extra $10k for quality interior.
- Hyundai Tucson / CRV - Hyundai was nice, however buttons were digital, and I would think resale is better on the Toyota if they ever wanted to change vehicles down the road.
In summary, criteria:
- Hard / tactile buttons for climate control
- Sub $50k
- Crossover/SUV for the height
- Hybrid or EV. good MPG
- Willing to go down from BMW x5 in terms of quality. | Going from a X5 to Rav4 would be a HUGE downgrade. It's fine if they are all city drivers, but if they do a lot of highway driving, I wouldn't recommend it. The touch points are fine but the Rav4 is NOISY on the highway.
Plus, I don't think the current BMWs are that bad in terms of reliability as long as you don't have a V8.
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02-24-2022, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 Alright, just picked up the Ioniq5. What do you guys want to know? | How do I get one without waiting 1-2 years  | |
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02-24-2022, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoFire Going from a X5 to Rav4 would be a HUGE downgrade. It's fine if they are all city drivers, but if they do a lot of highway driving, I wouldn't recommend it. The touch points are fine but the Rav4 is NOISY on the highway.
Plus, I don't think the current BMWs are that bad in terms of reliability as long as you don't have a V8. | Maybe a Venza instead?
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02-24-2022, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by supafamous Maybe a Venza instead? | The Venza ( Harrier in Japan ) is incredibly popular among the middle-aged to senior population without going full Lexus for luxury. Haven't driven it personally but would assume it'd be a good middle point between RAV4 and BMW
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02-24-2022, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by G How do I get one without waiting 1-2 years | Having deep pockets help Quote:
Originally Posted by Teriyaki The Venza ( Harrier in Japan ) is incredibly popular among the middle-aged to senior population without going full Lexus for luxury. Haven't driven it personally but would assume it'd be a good middle point between RAV4 and BMW | The Venza isn't much better. It's a bit quieter but you loose out of some interior space. The top trim of the Venza has the larger screen which is actually harder to use. If you really want a high end Rav4 get the new NX.
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02-24-2022, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 Having deep pockets help | I emailed inquiring a few dealerships to let them know that if anyone cancels their LR AWD Ultimate, that I am ready to buyout full and they don't seem to give a shit lol 
I guess that loophole got stopped by Hyundai Canada, everything goes by their registered list now or something
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02-24-2022, 03:16 PM
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#1117 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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they dont want your deflating cash
financing is king, baby
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02-24-2022, 03:43 PM
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#1118 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Technically they are still losing money with inflation on your financing lol cash is trash  | |
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02-24-2022, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 Alright, just picked up the Ioniq5. What do you guys want to know? | Does it have a turbo?  | |
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| https://www.moveelectric.com/e-cars/toyota-bz4x-review
Looks like reviews are coming out from the other side of the pond.
The cars are pre production prototypes, the camo wrap looks pretty sweet though.
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02-24-2022, 08:45 PM
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#1121 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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kinda disappointed it's still using ICE bones instead of skateboard
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02-24-2022, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TypeRNammer | In some way, the camoflauge wrap looks better than the mis-matched panel of the production version
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Thanks for the input - well go check out the NX 350H as well!
Definitely a downgrade from a midsize X5, but I think at least going hybrid is the way to go going forward (Premium fuel almost $2/L..). Will miss this B58 engine though  | |
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02-25-2022, 01:25 PM
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#1124 | | I LIKE JDM!!
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Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 Having deep pockets help | What if one has short arms though? | |
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02-25-2022, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Phozy Thanks for the input - well go check out the NX 350H as well!
Definitely a downgrade from a midsize X5, but I think at least going hybrid is the way to go going forward (Premium fuel almost $2/L..). Will miss this B58 engine though | NX350h = Rav4 Hybrid
NX450h = Rav4 Prime
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