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Old 05-23-2022, 07:39 AM   #1301
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Here is the link to the video ... damn! What the hell happened? Every so often a story of Tesla catches on fire ... how is it not recalled?

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We'll need to know your commute/rough kms you drive in a week to be able to better help you.

You mentioned you could charge at work, is that a public Lv 2 station, or a standard 120V outlet? I mean if you could charge for 7-8 hours at work and you're in there at least 2-3 times a week, then you really don't need a charger at home. Home charging helps to precondition your battery, but if you're in a covered garage, then the difference would be quite minimal even in the winter.

My commute is 25km each way, Surrey to Vancouver. That’s 5 days a week . The charger at work is a “public” level 2 station (it’s on dealership property). I’m still ignorant to identifying charger types, but I think there’s DCFC next to the level 2s.

Any more driving than that is heading to Seattle to visit family, but DCFC is everywhere along I5.
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Teslas do have a manual door handles but a lot of owners don't know about it.

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The primary point of concern being “Does it ruin the trim/frame?” tells me everything I need to know for about 95% of Tesla owners
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My commute is 25km each way, Surrey to Vancouver. That’s 5 days a week . The charger at work is a “public” level 2 station (it’s on dealership property). I’m still ignorant to identifying charger types, but I think there’s DCFC next to the level 2s.

Any more driving than that is heading to Seattle to visit family, but DCFC is everywhere along I5.
Here's my take from what you just said. Sorry if it's repetitive.

Most chargers that use the J plug is going to be level 2. There's 3 speeds of level 2 chargers, 3.3 kwh or 6 kwh or mix of both depending on 1 or 2 cars charging.

If you get a car that has a 62/64 kwh battery, well you can guess how long it will take to charge the battery with either 3.3 or 6kwh assuming 0 energy loss through heat.

DCFC is good, but if you are going to the US, rapid charge and discharging will bring up battery temps, so expect a slower charge on the second charge if you are coming back from Seattle. Also, when I looked, a lot of those DCFC's charge per min so the slower charge means more $$$, still cheaper than gas.

As for your daily commute, my commute is 35 kms each way mostly highway. You'll def want to use the DCFC at Superstore cause it doesn't sound like you can use the dealership's level 2 charger daily.
If the dealership has the DCFC, then a quick 20 min charge daily is really all you need.

I used to go to Superstore at lunch time. Chill in the car while it was charging and eat my lunch or watch some youtube on my phone.
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My commute is 25km each way, Surrey to Vancouver. That’s 5 days a week . The charger at work is a “public” level 2 station (it’s on dealership property). I’m still ignorant to identifying charger types, but I think there’s DCFC next to the level 2s.

Any more driving than that is heading to Seattle to visit family, but DCFC is everywhere along I5.
Is that at a dealership by your work or do you work at that dealership? Some dealerships don't allow public charging, or only allow an older Lv2 charger to the public and not their DCFC, even though it's on the charging map within the apps. You'll need to read the comments on the specific charger to know.

But if it's the dealership you work at, and the managers are cool with it, then you won't need a charger at home. Either DCFC/Lv2 will do just fine if you're there 5 days a week - whether it be frequent top ups or longer charges every couple of days are up to how you want to maintain your battery and what SOC you are at that day.
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Here's my take from what you just said. Sorry if it's repetitive.

As for your daily commute, my commute is 35 kms each way mostly highway. You'll def want to use the DCFC at Superstore cause it doesn't sound like you can use the dealership's level 2 charger daily.
If the dealership has the DCFC, then a quick 20 min charge daily is really all you need.

I used to go to Superstore at lunch time. Chill in the car while it was charging and eat my lunch or watch some youtube on my phone.
I know letting batteries run low isn't good for EVs in the long run, but based on the range and kWh of the i4 (84), it's going to be quick. If for whatever reason I can't use the work L2/DCFC at work, then I'm near a Superstore at both ends of my commute.

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Is that at a dealership by your work or do you work at that dealership?

But if it's the dealership you work at, and the managers are cool with it, then you won't need a charger at home. Either DCFC/Lv2 will do just fine if you're there 5 days a week - whether it be frequent top ups or longer charges every couple of days are up to how you want to maintain your battery and what SOC you are at that day.
I'll call a spade a spade here, I work at BMW these days. That's why I mentioned the i4, and there's what appears to be two L2s and two DCFC plugs in the customer parking areas. I wouldn't think that management would have a problem with me taking some juice with either of them.

However, I'm also hearing that Superchargers might be open to all non-Teslas soon. Apparently it's going on in the EU. That would bring any anxiety about charging for me to zero because there's so damn many of them.
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Tesla Q1 Earning call, Elon Musk mentioned it opening up and he mentioned a bit more detail at recent carmakers CEO interview (can't remember who hosted it, but it's on youtube)
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i really like that f150 lightening. i thought about using that as a daily but looking at the prices, its pretty insane.

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Why is the sales tax showing as almost nothing?
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^it's tax calculated from the monthly payment.

The $1748 is tax-in:
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I chose the extended range... So 500kms ish
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^it's tax calculated from the monthly payment.

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They're hiding it out of the total price of the vehicle though... sneaky
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Does it matter that they are Performance models?

It was $26 + tax both times
Performance gets the 3rd fastest charging among all Tesla (only behind the S and X Plaid), but even then... I don't think the fast rate is sustainable long enough to warrant $26 for 30min. It's usually only possible from 5% to about 35%... and that should be about 5min.

I'd take a look at the invoice (you get get them on Tesla account) and see what you are being charged and optimize your charging by lowering the cost.

Alternatively, check the vehicle info on these Model 3 and see if they have the CCS support enabled (it needs the V4 ICU for charging port), if so, see if your company can spend the dough (about 480 all in) for the CCS-Tesla adapter from Korea (google it). It allows you to use CCS from BC Hydro/Petro/Shell/Electrify Canada at Supercharger speed (150kwh+) at a mere $0.30 a min.
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Definitely looking into the CCS adapters, because the supercharger is in Nanaimo which is quite far away from where the vehicles are actually located...
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I sat in my friends Telsa and my first question was how do I exit during an emergency. Some things car companies should just keep simple. Too much useless technology. Can you imagine the headache having to explain to every single passenger you drive how to exit during an emergency? Literally like a flight attendant.
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He mentioned it because after you use the manual handle, it pops up in the display with a warning showing: "Using the Emergency Door Release May Cause Damage to the Window Trim", which only does so if there is no power.
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The manual release is really intuitive actually.

Going from a regular car to a Model 3/Y, without anyone telling you how to open the door, the manual release is the first thing most would use to try opening the door.

My wife would still accidentally use it from time to time (we have a Model X that doesn't haven the electric actuator like Model 3). It's that well-positioned. I'd go as far as saying, that's probably how they originally planned to open the door, but decided to add the electrical actuator at the end. You can see evidence of that on 2018/19 Model 3s... where the electrical actuator has a mere line on it. It wasn't until many people complaining... you guessed it, they kept using the manual release because the button is not intuitive at all, that they changed to a door opening drawing.
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i really like that f150 lightening. i thought about using that as a daily but looking at the prices, its pretty insane.

My buddy put a deposit down on one but when he had his chance to order the 120k price tag with the options he wanted changed his mind.
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So when you get the EV you want you basically just pay all the gas money that you'd use up front instead of over the course of 7-8 years lol
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For now yah... the gap is getting closer though! Prices will come down...

Besides the cost, for me, I won't adopt now because to me the technology is in its infancy and nobody can compete with Tesla's battery and software tech, it will take other manufacturers awhile to catch up. I'd rather buy in when there's more choice, lower costs and better tech.
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