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Traum 01-12-2023 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 9087215)
So if I make >$100k but wife makes significantly less, she should apply for the provincial rebate, and have her buy the car?

That's exactly how you'd want to do it.

I know the rebate cutoff is $55k, and with the Tesla price drop now, the TM3 RWD model should qualify for it. But does the gov need to add the car back to its approved list first? or does it automatically qualify once Tesla lowers the MSRP?

At $46k+tax after the rebate, I honestly think this is the best available new car deal right now -- EV or ICE considered. Unfortunately, I am in no position to jump on it in the foreseeable future even though I feel like my pos shxtbox is starting to not fit my needs...

Ugh...

Badhobz 01-13-2023 12:57 AM

Yes at 46k it ain’t bad at all. Is there a mod to fix that pig nosed grill ? I can’t stand how ugly it is.

roastpuff 01-13-2023 08:26 AM

Wow my friend is quite chapped now, he took delivery of his TM3 RWD in Nov.... oof.

freakshow 01-13-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9087244)
Wow my friend is quite chapped now, he took delivery of his TM3 RWD in Nov.... oof.

At least it wasn't a Plaid.. 26k drop..

tegra7 01-13-2023 08:50 AM

Used Teslas gonna take a big hit on pricing. Counted 17 at Abby VW:lol

whitev70r 01-13-2023 09:00 AM

In China, because of the significant overnight price drop.


radeonboy 01-13-2023 09:10 AM

^I would be angry too if I just took delivery of one before the price drop, but the notion of demanding refunds is ridiculous. Owners weren't coerced into buying these cars and this behavior shouts entitlement...

BaoTurbo 01-13-2023 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9087244)
Wow my friend is quite chapped now, he took delivery of his TM3 RWD in Nov.... oof.

I took in Oct 2022. Thanks Tesla for shafting me

This is a perfect example of what happens when you delete the dealership model. Pricing can change depending on what the manufacturer feels like, at least if I bought at dealership I know I got a good deal but this way is like a monopoly over pricing

BlackV62K2 01-13-2023 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BaoTurbo (Post 9087256)
I took in Oct 2022. Thanks Tesla for shafting me

This is a perfect example of what happens when you delete the dealership model. Pricing can change depending on what the manufacturer feels like, at least if I bought at dealership I know I got a good deal but this way is like a monopoly over pricing

Dealerships jack up the prices all the time for high demand cars

SSM_DC5 01-13-2023 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by radeonboy (Post 9087253)
^I would be angry too if I just took delivery of one before the price drop, but the notion of demanding refunds is ridiculous. Owners weren't coerced into buying these cars and this behavior shouts entitlement...

Retail stores like best buy do give you money back if price drops, so not that ridiculous in my opinion. https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/help/pa...rice-guarantee

radeonboy 01-13-2023 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SSM_DC5 (Post 9087258)
Retail stores like best buy do give you money back if price drops, so not that ridiculous in my opinion. https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/help/pa...rice-guarantee

That's true, though I was talking in the context of vehicle sales. I'm not aware of Tesla or any automotive brand / dealership that price matches post-sale, hence my comment on the owners' behavior.

SSM_DC5 01-13-2023 09:39 AM

Things can change, tesla created the new model of car shopping, so why can't they do price protection too?

whitev70r 01-13-2023 09:43 AM

Yah, a 30 day price protection would be reasonable, I think.

On the other hand, if you get a product at a bottomed out price, and next day, the price jumps 10% ... obviously, you don't have to pay the seller that extra 10%. So it's a bit like the housing market in some sense but from a consumer point of view, a short 30 day protection is reasonable.

Teriyaki 01-13-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SSM_DC5 (Post 9087263)
Things can change, tesla created the new model of car shopping, so why can't they do price protection too?

The presiding thought process with car purchases for the longest time has been that yesterdays price is not todays price, and that the moment you purchase it you can basically ensure that it'll depreciate.

Car manufacturers have had "price drops" all the time, year end clearouts etc whatever but for the most part they were done in an obscure manner (through rebates, and/or better financing terms, freebies etc).

The recent semiconductor shortage has created a very unusual environment where car values sometimes stay flat and/or increase even after purchase. This was never going to last, and is not normal.

Tesla, also got caught up in this perfect storm on top of their historically "hard to get" stock levels that made their resale values even more unusually inflated. I'm thinking some of the most vocal angries were so caught up in this thinking that they completely forgot that basic supply/demand can work both with you and against you at the drop of a hat.

Alpine 01-13-2023 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackV62K2 (Post 9087257)
Dealerships jack up the prices all the time for high demand cars

To add, at least Tesla is transparent with how/what they've done. Dealership markups and hidden/mislabeled fees? Playing games with customers to determine who gets a car? No trade-in and want to pay cash = back of the line. Fuck that.

Alpine 01-13-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tegra7 (Post 9087249)
Used Teslas gonna take a big hit on pricing. Counted 17 at Abby VW:lol

They're going to lose ~$15k per car .

Badhobz 01-13-2023 10:57 AM

Typical musk. Makes broad stroke changes that impact his consumer base. Consequences be damned. This is just to stop the bleed of Tesla stock prices

sonick 01-13-2023 12:10 PM

Mazda releases a new Rotary engine car... In a hybrid...

https://jalopnik.com/2023-mazda-mx-3...ource=facebook

I love Mazda but an undependable engine and a small battery, worst of both worlds?

:rukidding:

Koflach 01-13-2023 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BaoTurbo (Post 9087256)
I took in Oct 2022. Thanks Tesla for shafting me

This is a perfect example of what happens when you delete the dealership model. Pricing can change depending on what the manufacturer feels like, at least if I bought at dealership I know I got a good deal but this way is like a monopoly over pricing

If they increased their price would they be able to ask you for more money? no. You were okay with the price when you bought it so the price today really doesn't matter.

Koflach 01-13-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9087211)
I thought the federal program doesn’t take Teslas and the provincial one is restricted to under 55k and can’t make more than 85k a year income.

The federal program is only worried about the price of the vehicle, not the make.

With the new pricing, you could get quite a discount on the base model Tesla.

hud 91gt 01-13-2023 01:39 PM

I commend Mazda for trying again. Saying this, I bet this rotary will be successful. A single RPM I suspect, which means it will be very efficient, and likely really reliable.

68style 01-13-2023 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 9087298)
Mazda releases a new Rotary engine car... In a hybrid...

https://jalopnik.com/2023-mazda-mx-3...ource=facebook

I love Mazda but an undependable engine and a small battery, worst of both worlds?

It doesn't have to be unreliable if maintained correctly.

I can see what they're doing from a packaging perspective. You can get immense power out of a rotary from a TINY engine size... it's an 860cc engine and it's putting out as much as an engine twice that size... and it's acting as a generator, not driving the wheels = no resistance and way less wear and tear. I think it will work. Is the public going to agree? Maybe.

68style 01-13-2023 01:45 PM

Most of my friends who are car enthusiasts and own Teslas acknowledge that the car is effectively a high tech appliance for getting to/from places.

It only makes sense that prices on high tech gadgets drop suddenly. Just like they would for a TV or anything else that sees replacement rather than improvement as its future.

That said -- it's working, pissed off owners already spent their money and likely will again once their feelings aren't hurt anymore... and a lot of my friends are talking about buying a Tesla today who weren't yesterday.

Alpine 01-13-2023 01:54 PM

Now that the Model 3 RWD for $46k in BC...
That effectively puts a used 2018/2019 Model 3 RWD in the $30-35k range, which is what a new similarly equipped mid/top trim compact car (ie. Corolla/civic/mazda3) costs today.

Would you buy a new compact sedan if a used model 3 was a similar price?

68style 01-13-2023 02:00 PM

Yes, but ONLY because I hate being like every other car on the road lol... not because it makes sense.


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