Electric and Hybrid Car Thread

[Badhobz]

there’s so many in Richmond it’s ridiculous. Yarg..

[Gumby]

I'm in the market for an ~$60k EV but I do not want a Tesla, regardless of price. I just don't like the way they look, both the inside and outside.

[Hehe]

Model 3 now is like the Civic in the 90s. So many modding options out there if the look is the ultimate concern.

[TypeRNammer]

Originally Posted by Traum

That's exactly how you'd want to do it.

I know the rebate cutoff is $55k, and with the Tesla price drop now, the TM3 RWD model should qualify for it. But does the gov need to add the car back to its approved list first? or does it automatically qualify once Tesla lowers the MSRP?

At $46k+tax after the rebate, I honestly think this is the best available new car deal right now -- EV or ICE considered. Unfortunately, I am in no position to jump on it in the foreseeable future even though I feel like my pos shxtbox is starting to not fit my needs...

Ugh...

Tax gets applied first, then the rebates after

[68style]

Originally Posted by Hehe

Model 3 now is like the Civic in the 90s. So many modding options out there if the look is the ultimate concern.

There's a super nice grey Model3 in Richmond on blue TE37's... it's my 1 exception to the masses of white ones everywhere.

[dark0821]

Math doesnt add up currently...for the base model 3

$54,990 + $1,880 PDI + $100 AC tax + $20 some fee? = $56,990 + tax

$63,830 before rebates - $9,000 = $54,830 out the door

That is not what's showing on the Tesla website...

[tegra7]

^looks right to me

[BIC_BAWS]

How does trading into a dealership work with EVs? For instance, if I traded my gas car for $40K, they apply the tax equivalent off the car I'm trading in for. But with EVs, it's only 5% GST. Do you lose the 7% tax "credit"?

[radeonboy]

Originally Posted by Hehe

Model 3 now is like the Civic in the 90s. So many modding options out there if the look is the ultimate concern.

It's gotten to the point where my mother asked if she should add a lip spoiler to hers since her friends say it helps stabilize the car. Never imagined my mom would go the ricer route but here we are...

[Alpine]

Originally Posted by radeonboy

It's gotten to the point where my mother asked if she should add a lip spoiler to hers since her friends say it helps stabilize the car. Never imagined my mom would go the ricer route but here we are...

I hope you said yes.

[tegra7]

Tell her lowering also increases range.

https://emotive.engineering/blogs/th...man%20Autobahn.

[TypeRNammer]

Originally Posted by dark0821

Math doesnt add up currently...for the base model 3

$54,990 + $1,880 PDI + $100 AC tax + $20 some fee? = $56,990 + tax

$63,830 before rebates - $9,000 = $54,830 out the door

That is not what's showing on the Tesla website...

Tesla website only shows the MSRP

It doesn't automatically calculate the tax and rebates for us

[tofu1413]

Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS

How does trading into a dealership work with EVs? For instance, if I traded my gas car for $40K, they apply the tax equivalent off the car I'm trading in for. But with EVs, it's only 5% GST. Do you lose the 7% tax "credit"?

Correct.

You pay 5% GST only on the difference.

[g-velocity]

Originally Posted by Alpine

To add, at least Tesla is transparent with how/what they've done. Dealership markups and hidden/mislabeled fees? Playing games with customers to determine who gets a car? No trade-in and want to pay cash = back of the line. Fuck that.

Tesla has zero customer service.
I have a few friends worked at Tesla before and they all left because of the amount of complains coming from customers with no support from HQ.
Tesla will also gives out dirt trade in value on trades and lower than any traditional dealers.

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by g-velocity

Tesla has zero customer service.
I have a few friends worked at Tesla before and they all left because of the amount of complains coming from customers with no support from HQ.
Tesla will also gives out dirt trade in value on trades and lower than any traditional dealers.

Not really sure where the zero customer service comes from.

I have 2 Teslas for almost 4yrs now. Every time there's something up with the car, I pull out the phone, setup an appointment and voila. For small problems, rangers would just come to wherever my car is going to be that day, finish everything without me ever present there.

As for buying the cars... again, a few clicks on the website, an agent is assigned to me when it's near pickup date if I had any question/concern/problem. They even asked if I had any plan on the day of pickup so they can make sure the battery is charged to where it needed to be if that was necessary. At the pickup, I sign a few docs, deal with insurance people, go to the parking lot to pick up the keycards to my car and my app updates with new cars in my account so I can basically ditch the cards.

Once I start the process, I'm out in less than 10-15min depending on how long I spend picking up plates with insurance people. Add another 10 if you want an intro Tesla 101 on where most of the stuff like wipers and stuff are.

It might not be like some bling dealership where they bring bouquets and champagne when delivering the car, but again, it's actually very straightforward and quick. And no all that different than picking my other previous cars from Honda/BMW/Porsche.

[JDMDreams]

^^^ this, would you rather buy a "demo" at above MSRP and have to deal added bs and market adjustments?

[TypeRNammer]

Originally Posted by g-velocity

Tesla will also gives out dirt trade in value on trades and lower than any traditional dealers.

That's not by choice since Tesla is not your typical traditional dealership.

When it comes to trade in value, it's based on bottom of the barrel wholesale pricing. But with that being said, if the car is on its last legs, at that point it's worth it to trade in since Tesla doesn't thoroughly check the car.

[dark0821]

So I fucked up lolol... but went to Tesla Richmond today and confirmed the full $9000 rebate.

Again I wanna repeat, you are not buying to save money, that is absurd. You are spending 55K, and I didn't need a car.

I was just getting tired of trying to get into an Ioniq 5, with no end in sight, might as well get the 3, I would have spent the same amount anyways. Not saving money...

Bought it cuz I like new shiny things, wife likes new shiny things, kids likes new shiny things.... and finally miata can be more hardcore now that me and wife will both get "normal commuter cars".

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by dark0821

So I fucked up lolol... but went to Tesla Richmond today and confirmed the full $9000 rebate.

Again I wanna repeat, you are not buying to save money, that is absurd. You are spending 55K, and I didn't need a car.

I was just getting tired of trying to get into an Ioniq 5, with no end in sight, might as well get the 3, I would have spent the same amount anyways. Not saving money...

Bought it cuz I like new shiny things, wife likes new shiny things, kids likes new shiny things.... and finally miata can be more hardcore now that me and wife will both get "normal commuter cars".

So this is in addition to the prime? You must now be making bank selling cars.

[bcedhk]

You got the full provincial rebate? Are you doing something to dodge the income bracket or are actually buying a 55k car with less than 100k household income?

[Badhobz]

Grats dark !! I’m happy for you bro. That straight line acceleration is insane and addictive. I’m sure you and the wife will love it.

How soon can you get it ?

You can dodge it by just getting somebody else to buy it. His wife or his parents or her parents. Then you just primary driver it.

[TypeRNammer]

Originally Posted by bcedhk

You got the full provincial rebate? Are you doing something to dodge the income bracket or are actually buying a 55k car with less than 100k household income?

Long shot in the dark but he probably purchased it under his wife's name?

I'm going to have to do the same thing when the new Prius Prime is released since I've used my Provincial rebate already on the Model 3

[dark0821]

-well, lets just say that other than Sept last year where I wasnt allowed to talk to clients yet, my worst month was more than double compared to my old gig, my best month was almost 3.9Xs my old gig... but yea sales life... I am consistently 6 to 7 days at the dealer, day offs dont mean jack, when clients wanna come in to pay deposit, you bet I will say "see you in 40min". All good though, the job is awesome!

Yes, full provincial rebate, the model 3 is under wifeys name. I already used my rebate on the prime. The provincial rebate is based on personal income, not family income. Having said that, family wouldnt have mattered as I am ubder 80K for my 2021 income as I havnt filed my taxes yet for 2022.

Yes, this is just adding to the fleet, we are not getting rid of anything... but also not super scared now that if ICBC do decide to write the miata off, will still buy back since I love the car lolol

Stupid move for sure, family 100% functional without model 3, literally spending 55k because bad financial planning....

[Badhobz]

this aint a stupid move. its actually quite smart. (even smarter if you get rid of the prime at a profit) and swap the prime w/ the model 3.
As much as me and HEHE HE HA HA H HA dont see eye to eye on a lot of things, i do agree that in the long run this thing will likely save you some money if the gas keeps going up the way it does. it was 1.81 today, i found a place that was 1.73 and was laughing.

You dont have to deal with that anymore. This is me this morning... 160 dollars later

[Traum]

$1.739/L is cheap -- most stations I see are $1.819/L this morning.

Extra brownie points if you have PC Optimum points.