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Old 01-26-2023, 11:00 AM   #2176
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I am on the 'waitlist' to be notified of putting a deposit down to wait 3 years for the id.buzz
3 year wait probably means they'll have fixed the stupid touch controls by then. I could see the Buzz being the electric I buy in 4-5 years cause I love minivans but the price I'm hearing is kinda scary.
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Pulled the trigger on the M3. Loved the seamless and stress-free purchasing process and having to avoid the "let me speak to my manager" BS at conventional dealerships.

Hopefully the VW id.buzz won't have the same supply issues as that's our 'ultimate' goal for our primary vehicle in the next 3-5 years
man dont say m3. im like who bought that pig nosed bmw!?
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Pulled the trigger on the M3. Loved the seamless and stress-free purchasing process and having to avoid the "let me speak to my manager" BS at conventional dealerships.

Hopefully the VW id.buzz won't have the same supply issues as that's our 'ultimate' goal for our primary vehicle in the next 3-5 years
Congrats on the M3!

As for the buzz, i love the design but i'd only buy one of they can fix the software and controls that are on their current id lineup of cars.

My wife has an id4 and I like the look and build quality of it but the software and button layout are just awful. The built in map looks like it comes out of a 15 year old honda. The touch sensitive buttons suck. and on and on I can go.
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Historically speaking, back in 2020/2021 the price dropped as low as $52,990 before tax and freight

Then in 2021 there was a very limited run on the Model Y RWD standard range that was priced at $55,000

If Tesla ever decides to bring back the standard range Model Y and price it at $60,000, I'll definitely jump on it

Curious when the M3 was $52,990, was the govt also doing the full $9000 in rebate (5,000 Federal + 4,000 BC) back then?

Cuz if it was that, that is a steal for sure....
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Curious when the M3 was $52,990, was the govt also doing the full $9000 in rebate (5,000 Federal + 4,000 BC) back then?

Cuz if it was that, that is a steal for sure....
https://teslanorth.com/2021/10/14/te...anada-by-2000/

Trying to dig up Google to see when the actual price dropped happened.

But I found an article on when the first price hike started.

Rebates were $5000 federal and $3000 provincial at the time.
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^Ahh, ok, not feeling too bad then, then it was only $1000 bucks apart...

$52990 with 8K Rebate
$54990 with 9K Rebate
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Congrats on the M3, did you trade anything in? Finance?
Thanks! The financing rates are brutal (6% for 36 months), so I am planning straight cash.


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6% aint that bad. i think you can grab GIC's for 5% so that means youre only out 1% worth of interest.. might work out better if you take the 40-50k and invest it instead.
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Just saw a bz4ev whatever it's called and it just looks like a rav4 with a Kia front end. Pretty normal looking actually, but less plain than the id4.
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cant get over the black fenders. SO UGLY.
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cant get over the black fenders. SO UGLY.
People are painting the WRX fenders, they can paint the bz4x fenders too.
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I didn't notice that with the quick glance as it was just driving by, but then most cars have plastic fenders like the model y
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Reports of ford dropping the price on the Mustang Mach E. Not sure if Canada will follow suit and by how much.
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Reports of ford dropping the price on the Mustang Mach E. Not sure if Canada will follow suit and by how much.
Hah! bet dealers would drop their pants to sell them for MSRP now.
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There must be a shipment cuz I've seen like 4-5 bz4x this weekend. More than primes
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Does anyone here own a Mach-E?

We got a Lighting in our government vehicle fleet and it's a cool vehicle but after a few months of ownership we are wishing we had a way to get rid of it and trade it in for a conventional truck.

Even in BC versions of cold temperatures a 90% charge is only good for 170km of range. It's pretty bad... Ford has a long way to go. Not sure if the Mach-E is the same ish.
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Apparently, Mach E's and Bolt's don't do very well with their winter range. (And ID.4 seems pretty crappy too.)

https://insideevs.com/news/626577/wi...ge-loss-study/


That said, when you said "the BC versions of cold temperatures", this past Nov/Dec was pretty darn cold during the extended cold snap, and was unseasonably warm otherwise. So question is -- when did you notice the 90% charge w/ 170km range?
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We got a Lighting in our government vehicle fleet and it's a cool vehicle but after a few months of ownership we are wishing we had a way to get rid of it and trade it in for a conventional truck.

Even in BC versions of cold temperatures a 90% charge is only good for 170km of range. It's pretty bad... Ford has a long way to go. Not sure if the Mach-E is the same ish.
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Does anyone here own a Mach-E?

We got a Lighting in our government vehicle fleet and it's a cool vehicle but after a few months of ownership we are wishing we had a way to get rid of it and trade it in for a conventional truck.

Even in BC versions of cold temperatures a 90% charge is only good for 170km of range. It's pretty bad... Ford has a long way to go. Not sure if the Mach-E is the same ish.
170km not enough for your daily use? id be curious what that drops down to if it tows something on top of the cold temps.
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170 km is like best case scenario, if you drive a few more people, turn on the heat, you can easily burn up more range. Same thing as flooring your f150 pick up.
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That said, when you said "the BC versions of cold temperatures", this past Nov/Dec was pretty darn cold during the extended cold snap, and was unseasonably warm otherwise. So question is -- when did you notice the 90% charge w/ 170km range?
Last week

The driver routinely has to go to Squamish and some off-road stuff... so it's involved some ass clenching episodes of range anxiety for sure.
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^He can always keep a gas powered generator in the back for emergency charging
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My wife charges her ID4 to 90% and gets about 200 km of driving before she charges as her commute is 100km round trip and after two days she is left with 30%. The estimated range from VW is 410km, this should be doable in the summer, and from her experience she gets about 330km from 100% in the winter. This works out to roughly a 20% drop which really isn't that bad.
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How come more peeps don’t buy the leaf. It seems to the cheapest out of the bunch and the design looks okay in my eyes. Also it’s one of the oldest EVs so I figure Nissan has the leg up on building EVs as it’s 2nd gen.
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