Electric and Hybrid Car Thread

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by SSM_DC5

What's happening to you to make it unreliable?

Squeaky brakes replaced twice (in 30,000km)
Squeaky control arms replaced
Squeaky tailgate (replaced springs)
Driver side seat motor/bottom replaced (seat doesn't return to the right spot)

There's been other more minor items that I can't recall (way more squeaks and rattles than I'd expect too - it feels quite used for it's mileage and age). Never been stranded but I've made about double the dealer visits that I should have to make - it's an annoyance I don't expect from an Acura.

[tegra7]

Audi EV battery explodes in Richmond daytime crash

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/suv-...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by supafamous

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...x-90-revealed/

Mazda Canada CEO said that pricing will be from the mid-40s to low 60s which sounds low considering what the CX-9 goes for and how much better this is. Bet the PHEV comes in cheaper than the gas engine version once the rebate is taken into account.

If pricing really is that low then I'm getting really excited for the CX-70 PHEV as that would suggest a nicely loaded one is 50k. I don't really love my RDX, it's been pretty unreliable, it guzzles gas, and it's not particularly well resolved. At the same I don't drive it much so a replacement for it better be awesome.

If it honestly is going to come in at that price, I'm probably going to buy one next year once the cars land and I can actually see it in person.

There's a few things I need to see first in person. How big of a compromise is it to have a 3rd row in terms of 2nd row space and trunk space and how funky the trunk is.

[TypeRNammer]

Originally Posted by supafamous

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...x-90-revealed/

Mazda Canada CEO said that pricing will be from the mid-40s to low 60s which sounds low considering what the CX-9 goes for and how much better this is. Bet the PHEV comes in cheaper than the gas engine version once the rebate is taken into account.

If pricing really is that low then I'm getting really excited for the CX-70 PHEV as that would suggest a nicely loaded one is 50k. I don't really love my RDX, it's been pretty unreliable, it guzzles gas, and it's not particularly well resolved. At the same I don't drive it much so a replacement for it better be awesome.

Estimated pricing is in USD.

Definitely wouldn't mind if that pricing was in CAD

EDIT: According to the Canadian editorial, it also mentions those prices in CAD as per CEO

https://driving.ca/reviews/preview/f...-three-row-suv

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by TypeRNammer

Estimated pricing is in USD.

Definitely wouldn't mind if that pricing was in CAD

EDIT: According to the Canadian editorial, it also mentions those prices in CAD as per CEO

https://driving.ca/reviews/preview/f...-three-row-suv

From the article:

Like we said, pricing will be revealed within the next few weeks, but we have a ballpark to work with. Mazda Canada CEO David Klan confirmed to Driving.ca that the lowest trims will start in the mid-$40,000 range and will compete with mainstream three-row SUVs like the Hyundai Palisade, Kia Telluride, Toyota Highlander, Honda Pilot, and others. At the high end—Signature on the inline-six and GT for the PHEV—Klan says pricing will be in the early-$60,000 range and will play in the entry-level luxury space against competitors like the Acura MDX (from $66,300 for the A-Spec) and Volvo XC90 (from $70,950 for its gas-only powertrain; and $82,650 for the plug-in hybrid).

If true, the CX-70 is gonna be a steal.

[TypeRNammer]

Originally Posted by supafamous

From the article:



If true, the CX-70 is gonna be a steal.

I absolutely agree with you.

Because my original plan was to replace my gas car with a Prius Prime.

With the announcement of both the CX-90 and CX-70, it's definitely going to shake up the market for PHEV SUVs

[Alpine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/electricveh...rices_march_6/

Looks like it didn't take long. Seems like some users are commenting that publicly charging their EV will be > than the cost of gas...

[hud 91gt]

And with Natural gas becoming a thing of the past. We’re going to get hosed whether you have an EV or not (which apparently we will all have soon). I’m still not convinced this is the technological way to go. Maybe I’m just old and bitter. Lol.

[dark0821]

Delivery is very different from the traditional dealer model as well.

- the car is just parked outside in the parking lot (in one of the customer parking spots)

- they unlock the car remotely and have your go inspect the car by yourself

- it either I got super lucky, or I have super low standards (I was told by peers that I have no standards LOOL so me doing QC quality control is a bad idea), but I couldnt find anything wrong with my car, all interior trims are good, all exterior are good, all panels gaps are good, everything is flush and lined up...

- once you are satisfied, they hand you a folder, you sit down by yourself at the lounge and sign away your life at all the highlighted spots

- you then hand back the folder (no physical copies are given to you, when asked, was told to go login to my account on Tesla and all documents are there and I can "print" a copy for myself if I wanted)

- once they get your folder, you do insurance, after you get your plate, someone puts the plates on

- you are led to your own car once again, and you sit thru like a 40 min tutorial video of your car on your own inside your own car

- was told to go inside if you have any questions, OR you can just leave at anytime

- I had one question, and asked where the base 110V charger is, and was told "your car does NOT come with a charger" you can buy a charger here at our store... I was like.. bro.. I just spent 50K+ and you are telling me the car doesnt even come with a charger? not even the super baseic slowass 110V one?

******Now I do deliveries myself when our delivery specialist are on their day off, and I am not sure how to feel for the whole experience. The cool thing is that it feels very streamlined, no one is there to push you so you can go as fast or as slow as you want. No one is asking to buy extra features, or warranties or coverages etc etc.

But also it feels very robotic, there is "no personal touch" at all, every person walking thru the doors to take "delivery" are all the same. The experience is not personalised at all due to your background, what you use your vehicle for etc etc. Like I focus on different features for clients that are "techy" "eldery" "using for school/work" "using for camping" etc etc...

Tesla just felt like... you are here because you are a Tesla fan, I am sure you already went thru 20 diff youtube vids before even coming here, so here are your key cards and off you go...

sorry for the rant XD ///

[Badhobz]

Feels like buying an iPhone. Take your shit and get out.

at least at the traditional dealers you get this nice personal touch. Heck, Dark even puts a big red bow on your car if you buy from him! and im sure he'll go over everything with you (or the delivery specialist) with a IMMACULATE DETAIL.

[radeonboy]

^My mother hated her Model Y delivery experience in HK. First, her car arrived 2 months early and was told she had to take delivery the same week or be put in the back of the queue. When she went in to sign the paperwork a few days before delivery, the sales team didn't offer any financing options and told my mom she was supposed to find financing on her own, yet payment was due that day so she ended up paying upfront. Finally on delivery day she was given a 10 minute crash course on operating the vehicle and was told to figure out the rest on her own by going on YouTube videos and watching videos there.

For someone like my mom that is older and not tech-saavy, the self-service ways of Tesla really put her off as she expected all the handholding from a traditional dealership experience. She felt brushed off after she the sale and it totally killed her excitement for the car.

[TypeRNammer]

That's Tesla delivery in a nut shell

Sign off and fuck off

[Teriyaki]

Originally Posted by supafamous

From the article:



If true, the CX-70 is gonna be a steal.

Think I read somewhere long ago that the battery tech Mazda was using for this was borrowing on Toyota tech and their supply lines? If they are indeed using the same supply chain, and Toyota can barely make enough for their Rav4 Prime, I can see some serious availability issues for Mazda.

Though take that sweet RAV4 Prime tech and power, stuff it into some zoom-zoom Mazda platform does make for a pretty compelling argument if they can manage to keep prices relatively sane.

[tegra7]

Tesla dropped their prices by another $500 yesterday in the US nothing for Canada yet..

[BlackV62K2]

Originally Posted by tegra7

Tesla dropped their prices by another $500 yesterday in the US nothing for Canada yet..

I thought I read prices went up in the US, at least for the Model Y.

[cafe22]

Yeah I think it went up in the states as they no longer have their EV Credits for the Y down south.

[Gumby]

Yesterday I was offered a fully loaded 2022 Ioniq 5 with just under 3k kms for $79,990 plus fees + GST.

Retail price is $60k plus taxes/fees.

Not in a rush, so I'll just continue waiting in line...

[LancerBoy]

Got this in my email last week from Boundary Hyundai:

To our valued customers , it’s been a while since we reached out and we apologize for that. We were hoping Hyundai Canada had opened up their ordering system but unfortunately that hasn’t been the case. We appreciate your patience with Hyundai Canada and the ongoing chip shortage that has plagued the production of our vehicles.



Since it has been a while and things may have changed for you, we’d like to ask you to fill out a 2 minute questionnaire to see your current situation so we can filter our list and better serve you going forward.

Please fill out the survey here à https://sales.boundaryhyundai.com/waitlist



The one update we did receive from Hyundai Canada though… Tucson/Santa Fe plug-ins and Ioniq 5 Ultimate’s will not be built in mass quantity (even though they’re our most desired vehicles) so we’d advise to switch to a different trim or a different vehicle.



We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and going forward, we’ll do a lot better. This survey will help with that.

**If you have a submitted factory order, it is still active. Hyundai Canada has stopped with the frequent email updates. Next email you will receive is when your vehicle is on a ship on its way here, at that point your sales representative will reach out again with the good news.

....Frankly, I'm quite disappointed and annoyed after waiting a year for the i5 ultimate and Hyundai couldn't deliver (not blaming the dealer at all). I wanted to believe in them but if they can't deliver and tell me to do a survey as "good customer service follow-up", and then tell me to consider a lesser or different model, then I'm walking away. At 70-75k, the i5 ultimate ain't a cheap purchase. It's like you go to buy a type R and there is absolutely no way to deliver so they want you to consider a Si.

Luckily, I got my deposit back. Just a straight refund by the receptionist, no greeting or mild apology by any sales people or GM. Oh fine, I'm done with Hyundai/Genesis then. Back to the mainstream Japanese or German brands where they can deliver. And Tesla certainly can in less than 6 months.

[JDMDreams]

^^when can mainstream Japanese or German deliver? when did Tesla stop including chargers? And how much is it now? $600?

[LancerBoy]

Haha LOL true. Well, I put down a deposit for the new RX350h. Hopefully they can deliver in 6-8 months. Shouldn't be a problem since it's made in Canada and don't have to wait for Asia Delivery experience.

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

Feels like buying an iPhone. Take your shit and get out.

at least at the traditional dealers you get this nice personal touch. Heck, Dark even puts a big red bow on your car if you buy from him! and im sure he'll go over everything with you (or the delivery specialist) with a IMMACULATE DETAIL.

Very similar to an iPhone, down to the "no charger for you"

[Edison_Chen]

Originally Posted by LancerBoy

Haha LOL true. Well, I put down a deposit for the new RX350h. Hopefully they can deliver in 6-8 months. Shouldn't be a problem since it's made in Canada and don't have to wait for Asia Delivery experience.

I’m in the same boat. We put a deposit down for the RX 350h last month on Ultra Luxury package and the said the salesperson estimated a wait of 5-8 months. A few weeks ago, I received an email from the dealer stating they submitted my order and it’s currently in “Pending Fulfillment” status and the estimated wait time is ETA.

[LancerBoy]

That's fantastic. Congrats. I got the same trim too in Iridium and black interior. Didn't consider the executive package because:

-The different wheels look like similar to the old generation.
-Only wanted the ML sound system, could live without the 1500w inverter, self park, offroad camera.
-And wanted to stay away from the Alcantara seat inserts cuz family car and kids will destroy it with mud

[Edison_Chen]

Originally Posted by LancerBoy

That's fantastic. Congrats. I got the same trim too in Iridium and black interior. Didn't consider the executive package because:

-The different wheels look like similar to the old generation.
-Only wanted the ML sound system, could live without the 1500w inverter, self park, offroad camera.
-And wanted to stay away from the Alcantara seat inserts cuz family car and kids will destroy it with mud

We think alike .. I also ordered the same color combination as you. The Executive package was a bit too much for us. I heard there was a shortage for vehicles with ML system. I also heard currently they only have 1 key FOB and will send out the second one in the future.

We ordered ours from Regency. No mark up or any extra useless packages I don’t want.

[LancerBoy]

Nice. Totally.

On a side note, the RX was never a sporty drivers suv so I didn't even consider the 500h. Not only is it a lot more money, my mission is fuel efficiency for the family car and not sportiness. And the turbo is pretty bad on gas based on the reviews on youtube. Although the adaptive dampers, bumper kit, and wheels are nice to have, that's not what my needs entails. I want comfy seats, not sporty seats that hug tightly.