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thats so weird. honestly, the software in my hitlerbox is fine. i haven't had any issues with it.
I don't get why they want to reinvite the damn wheel (typical German attitude) and create their own software company which proceeded to lose 12 billion dollars so far and still can't get a decent product out.
I was playing around with the ID Buzz configurator yesterday. $88k for a First Edition AWD before taxes....
Pricing is not far off from a loaded EV9 in the 3-row 'mainstream' people mover segment, and I can see some buyers paying an extra premium for the unique styling. But I can't imagine there are too many customers in that segment, knowing that these will also depreciate worse than luxury cars.
I'm hoping there'll be a lower trim level that starts closer to $65k, in the area where the Siennas / Odysseys max out in pricing.
I think those looking at cars above 65k do not care as much about price but more about availability and specs.
I can see this are holding value much better than a fully spec'd Model Y or EV9 and I would totally purchase one if stealerships keep it at MSRP.
But I think the id buzz will fail similar to the ioniq 5. they overhyped the product and took way too long. Most of the buyers probably already switched to Rivian and Tesla by now.
Ioniq 5 failing to sell is news to me, I really think they have momentum.
Segment: Rivian is also perceived as too expensive and large for most people; it's a much older and wealthier audience (think Aspen and Hamptons)
Momentum:
- Ioniq 5 reached 40% of Model Y volume in Q3 2024 stateside.
- All the photos Ioniq powering houses during hurricane I'm sure will help sales.
- In the new year, Ioniq 5 pricing will drop 3750, it'll get Tesla port and supercharging access in Jan.
Tesla Headwinds Technical
- Model Y charges a bit too slow for US road tripping (Ioniq charges 2X faster).
- Model Y refresh will be a lot more mild than Model 3 since the acoustic glass/suspension refresh is already in Image
- Gen Zers are also catching onto Tesla regen by default not being very smooth + suspension being bumpy in their ubers, even the white chicks are complaining on TikTok.
- Best case scenario, you look like a OC suburb fuckboi or you went to Rutgers in NJ and driving your dads car
- Medium case scenario, your uber just arrived (this is like Camry SE image).
- Worst case scenario, you're a trump supporter because of Elon politics. IMO worse than being religious or smoking in Silicon Valley
__________________ There's a phallic symbol infront of my car
Quote:
MG1: in fact, a new term needs to make its way into the American dictionary. Trump............ he's such a "Trump" = ultimate insult. Like, "yray, you're such a trump."
bcrdukes yray fucked bcrdukes up the nose
dapperfied yraisis
dapperfied yray so waisis
FastAnna you literally talk out your ass
FastAnna i really cant
FastAnna yray i cant stand you
I was sitting in a Niro EV, for an Uber and you could tell the interior is pretty low rent. Lots of plastics, cloth. You sit pretty high up too due to the battery? But definitely you can tell it's an economy car.
I saw a soul flip over on the McGill on ramp to second narrows
it's a fucking solid box
__________________ There's a phallic symbol infront of my car
Quote:
MG1: in fact, a new term needs to make its way into the American dictionary. Trump............ he's such a "Trump" = ultimate insult. Like, "yray, you're such a trump."
bcrdukes yray fucked bcrdukes up the nose
dapperfied yraisis
dapperfied yray so waisis
FastAnna you literally talk out your ass
FastAnna i really cant
FastAnna yray i cant stand you
Are Ioniq 5s still hard to get? I see so many in stock on websites!
__________________ Do Not Put Aftershave on Your Balls. -604CEFIRO Looks like I'm gonna have some hot sex again tonight...OOPS i got the 6 pack. that wont last me the night, I better go back and get the 24 pack! -Turbo E kinda off topic but obama is a dilf - miss_crayon Honest to fucking Christ the easiest way to get a married woman in the mood is clean the house and do the laundry.....I've been with the same girl almost 17 years, ask me how I know. - quasi
Ioniq 5 failing to sell is news to me, I really think they have momentum.
Segment: Rivian is also perceived as too expensive and large for most people; it's a much older and wealthier audience (think Aspen and Hamptons)
Momentum:
- Ioniq 5 reached 40% of Model Y volume in Q3 2024 stateside.
- All the photos Ioniq powering houses during hurricane I'm sure will help sales.
- In the new year, Ioniq 5 pricing will drop 3750, it'll get Tesla port and supercharging access in Jan.
Tesla Headwinds Technical
- Model Y charges a bit too slow for US road tripping (Ioniq charges 2X faster).
- Model Y refresh will be a lot more mild than Model 3 since the acoustic glass/suspension refresh is already in Image
- Gen Zers are also catching onto Tesla regen by default not being very smooth + suspension being bumpy in their ubers, even the white chicks are complaining on TikTok.
- Best case scenario, you look like a OC suburb fuckboi or you went to Rutgers in NJ and driving your dads car
- Medium case scenario, your uber just arrived (this is like Camry SE image).
- Worst case scenario, you're a trump supporter because of Elon politics.
The main problem with Hyundai... or any other EV company for that matter is the lack of overall planning to shift toward EV.
800V architecture for that 350kw charging speed sounds great on paper. But 350kw chargers that works reliably is hard to come by. More often than not... they are charging at sub 200kw if lucky.
Many manufacturers are still in that ICE car mentality where "I'd build the car, the rest is on you" ideology is still dominant.
This mentality is what's slowing them down.
That's why here in NA EV scene, it's Tesla vs. others.
If you look at hyper-competitive EV market in China... it's whole other story and it kinda give you a sense what's coming our way.
It has gone so far that it makes more sense to get EV as your next car in China than an ICE, all within a span of 5yrs or so.
But other than Tesla, there is no other non-Chinese brand within the top 10 chart. It's not that they didn't want to. But there is no way they can compete.
I don’t think it’s just the mentality. I’m pretty sure it’s because their production models are completely based off suppliers.
The traditional automakers aren’t agile like tesla or rivian or lucid. By the time they make a request for some component, let the suppliers bid on the price, test it, and incorporate it into a new build, it’s already outdated. That’s why EVs from most traditional automakers suck.
These little start ups aren’t bound by these restrictions so it’s much easier to test , build, test, build new stuff. And Tesla is vertically integrated so it’s even easier to control their production.