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Old 09-29-2016, 10:56 AM   #26
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I think the 3 tips are for the selective exhaust sound. Aka you can have race car blast pipe sounds at the touch of a button
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currently I don't really like it.. waiting to see what Spoon and Mugen has to offer though
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Looks curiously aggressive. I personally think it looks great.

Mind you, all of those angles and vents and such are functional.
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To be fair this is just a prototype of the car. We all know how much Honda like to tone back the actual production models.

Probably will lose the lip kit all around, wheels will be something more conservative, diffuser will prob be gone.

IMO it'll look pretty good. Rather it be over aggressive than to be indifferent with any other normal Civic
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To be fair this is just a prototype of the car. We all know how much Honda like to tone back the actual production models.

Probably will lose the lip kit all around, wheels will be something more conservative, diffuser will prob be gone.

IMO it'll look pretty good. Rather it be over aggressive than to be indifferent with any other normal Civic
More than any other manufacturer, Honda tends to show of "concept vehicles" that are probably 98% identical to their actual production cars. In that regard, I think the final product is going to look nearly identical to the "prototype".

Personally, the only thing I do not expect to see on the production car is the matte gloss paint and maybe the red accents on the front and rear skirts. I am seriously hoping the production car will come in 19" wheels as well instead of 20", but the huge Brembos may or may not allow that.
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If anything, the regular hatchback "prototype" serves as a testament to how close Honda keeps their prototypes to their production models these days. Judging by the spy shots of the camo'd Type-Rs making their rounds on the Nurb, this prototype in terms of bodywork, is pretty much exactly how the production Type-R will look, minus maybe the red lines on the lip/skirts.

The only visual differences between the production hatch and the prototype hatch is the smaller front lip and side skirt (rear lip is the same), 235/40R18 tires instead of 245/30R19 on the prototype, and a higher ride height, plus all the little things like the tinted tails and side markers etc. that's it.
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^ yeah agreed.


most of the Honda "prototypes" over the years are pretty much 80-90% of the production car would be...


(unlike Toyota............ )
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most of the Honda "prototypes" over the years are pretty much 80-90% of the production car would be...


(unlike Toyota............ )
Or worse, Subaru...
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I like it, I might just get the civic hatch sport and save 20k though.
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I guess the overall shape is going to be there, so expect the wide arches and stuff to be there but I think the production model will still be a lot less in your face than the prototype
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I guess the overall shape is going to be there, so expect the wide arches and stuff to be there but I think the production model will still be a lot less in your face than the prototype
You do realize that concept and prototype mean two different things, and that the manufacturer vanity plate on that Civic concept clearly says "concept"



Also, that concept is a precursor to the styling of the upcoming Si coupe, which will come with what is essentially the hatch front end with the square exhaust.
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So what advantage does this have over a WRX?
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Here are some interior shots of the prototype car, it'll probably be refined in the production cars cause it looks really tacky lol.
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I wonder how much is this going to be.

$40k?
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^ i have a feeling it'll be in the 50k+ range.
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I wonder how much is this going to be.

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Just another ugly new car.

Honda hasn't been the same since the S2k was launched, every car since has sucked... at least from a "sports car" perspective.

Thought the 07+ Civic SI/CSX-S is a great comfy/quiet daily with a semi fun engine.. huge car though.
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The current Civic hatch tops out at just north of $31k. I would expect a base Si to start somewhere around $32k - $33k, with the fully loaded Si weighting in at around $36k - $38k. So realistically, the CTR is going to start right at $40k.

For Honda's interest, they'd really want the car to start MSRP-ing below $40k -- ie. the bs $39,995 kind of thing.
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Just another ugly new car.

Honda hasn't been the same since the S2k was launched, every car since has sucked... at least from a "sports car" perspective.

Thought the 07+ Civic SI/CSX-S is a great comfy/quiet daily with a semi fun engine.. huge car though.
From a sports car point of view, from everything I've read even from the disbelievers who have driven the FK2 CTR, the amount of grip and confidence it inspires on the track is astonishing, it's an extremely quick vehicle based on what drivers are saying, and tons of downforce. Really no one complaining about anything in particular. I would assume this new one is even etter.

Size wise it is physically a tremendous amount larger than the CTRs of yore, but what isn't a tremendous amount larger than before these days aside from the MX-5 and dedicated sports cars? Times are changing, so are crash test regs, pedestrian safety, emissions req's etc. etc. blah blah blah

Plus it's really not much larger than the FD2/FN2, but more practical with a hatch compared to the FD, and two more doors compared to the FN. Too big? Buy a 3-door GTI. Too small? I dunno get a Pilot or something lol.
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it will be 50k.
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